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06-27-2010, 06:18 PM
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Entertainment makes the ENTERTAINMENT industry. If she wasn't entertaining as her raw talent, her powers that be should've figured out a way to make her talent and image work.
I think of singers like Alicia Keys (who I don't really like). I respect that she's basically remained true to form. She's basically the same way now as she was when I saw her when she was like 14 years old on BET's Teen Summit. Good for her and her powers that be.
Did I already mention that Rihanna and her transformation annoy me? LOL. I think I did. I like some of her songs but refuse to actually LOOK at her and see her videos. She looks DUMB.
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06-27-2010, 09:28 PM
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Entertainment makes the ENTERTAINMENT industry. If she wasn't entertaining as her raw talent, her powers that be should've figured out a way to make her talent and image work.
I think of singers like Alicia Keys (who I don't really like). I respect that she's basically remained true to form. She's basically the same way now as she was when I saw her when she was like 14 years old on BET's Teen Summit. Good for her and her powers that be.
Did I already mention that Rihanna and her transformation annoy me? LOL. I think I did. I like some of her songs but refuse to actually LOOK at her and see her videos. She looks DUMB.
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I am in so much agreement with the entirety of this post.
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06-27-2010, 10:01 PM
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iLost at alot of those pictures.
BUT I did win in immediately spotting Waldo GaGa 
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Ditto.
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06-27-2010, 10:13 PM
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It took me 20 minutes to find Waldo Ga Ga.
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06-27-2010, 10:14 PM
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It took me 20 minutes to find Waldo Ga Ga.
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06-27-2010, 11:12 PM
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06-27-2010, 11:28 PM
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While I do understand where everyone is coming from, I do still feel like Gaga is a great artist. She's a very talented songwriter, writing for Britney Spears, Michael Bolton, and Adam Lambert, and while her image is quite extreme, that's exactly what has always sold in the music industry. Madonna broke boundaries with her songs and appearance, Britney and Christina did the same in their young careers. Gaga's songs might not always be deep, but they are catchy and top charts because of that. And although she is clearly influenced by these other pop stars, Gaga is a character all her own. She's pushed the boundaries even further than they had been before, but that's what is required in the music industry if you want to really achieve pop stardom. I hope that Gaga does do an album that throws back to her early career, as I do think she has great vocals and amazing skills on the piano, but until then, I'm going to keep listening (and dancing) to her fun, pop hits.
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06-28-2010, 04:25 PM
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06-28-2010, 04:40 PM
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If you make millions by playing the game and putting on a persona that's not you, then do a 180 and try to do what really was in your heart, it's unlikely people will accept it. Either they'll think you're a pretentious idiot, or they'll be like "oh, they were so fakey at the beginning of their career - eff them." Christina Aguilera is a RARE exception, but that's because she can sing her ass off - I think she'll be around when she's 60 - and because she started out so young. Not to mention I think her family issues made her less likely to stand up to the record company and tell them to eff off when they were intent on making her BritBrit #2.
I just don't hear anything new or interesting coming out of Lady Gaga. She's got a good voice, but she obviously got signed in the wake of Norah Jones etc and then it became clear that field was saturated/over, so she went (or was encouraged to go) the freak route.
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Wasn't Kelly Clarkson the same way? She lost all that weight and went blond for the record company, and as soon as she got away she gained her weight back and changed her hair? (she looks WAY better now than when she lost all that weight)
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06-28-2010, 08:26 PM
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I hate when people have these conversations. The industry is scrambling to survive under lacking record sales, there's nothing new under the sun. NOTHING. Everything is always going to look like or similar to something else. There's nothing we or these celebs can do about it. This makes impossible for comparisons not to exist. It happens.
As far as Rhianna's style, it's actually very typical of young Caribbean women to do the most randomest f*cking stuff with their hair and be showy with their bodies. It's a cultural thing. I don't really much care for her voice or her island for that matter, but she looks fierce. Whatever.
No one was comparing Katy to Gaga, it had to do with Katy's comment on the "Alejandro" video. (Which someone may have mentioned earlier).
I love the Mother Monster. She has brought so much joy into my life with her lyrics that I can't even describe it. It's cliche, but it's the truth.
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06-28-2010, 08:44 PM
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I hate when people have these conversations. The industry is scrambling to survive under lacking record sales, there's nothing new under the sun. NOTHING. Everything is always going to look like or similar to something else. There's nothing we or these celebs can do about it. This makes impossible for comparisons not to exist. It happens.
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I beg to differ, there's a lot of NEW, great music out there but people like you just don't care to explore/search out/find it so the industry pumps out this crap because the general public will eat it up. Since the popularization of itunes almost anyone can release and sell their own music online, it's not like it was 15 years ago where you had to be signed under a major label just to get your record album up for sale. Not sure but I've heard that there are twice as many record labels and higher concert revenues today than there were 20 years ago. It's not the music industry thats hurting, it's the 5 record labels that 20 years ago controlled 90% of the industry and made billions that are the ones hurting.
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06-28-2010, 10:38 PM
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I beg to differ, there's a lot of NEW, great music out there but people like you just don't care to explore/search out/find it so the industry pumps out this crap because the general public will eat it up.
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That's not what she meant. She meant that at this point, rock & roll is 60 years old and no matter how "new" your band is, there's probably a Keith Richards riff or a Tina Turner grunt in there somewhere. It's new to you because you're so young, but throw some youtube links of your "indie" bands on here and I guarantee you I'll be able to find someone who sounds like them.
However, there is a difference between having listened to something so many times it becomes part of you and emulating it subconciously, and blatant biting.
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06-28-2010, 11:01 PM
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However, there is a difference between having listened to something so many times it becomes part of you and emulating it subconciously, and blatant biting.
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Yep and emulating it consciously is okay if you acknowledge where your influences come from.
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have your own style. I'm not talking about Rihanna and FeFe Dobson when I say this so BabyFL needs not have a hernia. LOL.
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06-29-2010, 01:57 AM
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but throw some youtube links of your "indie" bands on here and I guarantee you I'll be able to find someone who sounds like them.
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And I can say, " For every mainstream chart topping artist you listen to I can find a "indie" artist who sounds better, performs better, and has more raw talent then them". I never said artists can't have influences, I jumped in on the topic of people changing their style and sound JUST to make it big.
I am down to play though... Most of these were released within the last two years, and while they might not be exactly groundbreaking, they are a hell of a lot more interesting and fun then Gaga or Katy Perry.
Fever Ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-CpE73o2M
Some more
Dirty Projectors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMPF6lpM0XM
Santogold, waaayyy more interesting than Rihanna or FeFe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXpZi...eature=related
Vampire Weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1x...eature=related
The XX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pib8eYDSFEI
The Gossip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mQVljB7JGw
Digitalism, anyone into electronic has this album though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sicf2...eature=related
Grizzly Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjecYugTbIQ
And just cuz I like grime ( hip-hop- electronic mix) , UK's Wiley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnezldGu7JU
If you need or want some more, just let me know.
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06-29-2010, 09:43 AM
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LOL Paul Simon says hi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fS_7Yp0hY
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