Excuse Me Katy Perry!

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I hate when people have these conversations. The industry is scrambling to survive under lacking record sales, there's nothing new under the sun. NOTHING. Everything is always going to look like or similar to something else. There's nothing we or these celebs can do about it. This makes impossible for comparisons not to exist. It happens.

I beg to differ, there's a lot of NEW, great music out there but people like you just don't care to explore/search out/find it so the industry pumps out this crap because the general public will eat it up. Since the popularization of itunes almost anyone can release and sell their own music online, it's not like it was 15 years ago where you had to be signed under a major label just to get your record album up for sale. Not sure but I've heard that there are twice as many record labels and higher concert revenues today than there were 20 years ago. It's not the music industry thats hurting, it's the 5 record labels that 20 years ago controlled 90% of the industry and made billions that are the ones hurting.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I beg to differ, there's a lot of NEW, great music out there but people like you just don't care to explore/search out/find it so the industry pumps out this crap because the general public will eat it up.

That's not what she meant. She meant that at this point, rock & roll is 60 years old and no matter how "new" your band is, there's probably a Keith Richards riff or a Tina Turner grunt in there somewhere. It's new to you because you're so young, but throw some youtube links of your "indie" bands on here and I guarantee you I'll be able to find someone who sounds like them.

However, there is a difference between having listened to something so many times it becomes part of you and emulating it subconciously, and blatant biting.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

However, there is a difference between having listened to something so many times it becomes part of you and emulating it subconciously, and blatant biting.

Yep and emulating it consciously is okay if you acknowledge where your influences come from.

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have your own style. I'm not talking about Rihanna and FeFe Dobson when I say this so BabyFL needs not have a hernia. LOL.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by 33girl

but throw some youtube links of your "indie" bands on here and I guarantee you I'll be able to find someone who sounds like them.

And I can say, " For every mainstream chart topping artist you listen to I can find a "indie" artist who sounds better, performs better, and has more raw talent then them". I never said artists can't have influences, I jumped in on the topic of people changing their style and sound JUST to make it big.


I am down to play though... Most of these were released within the last two years, and while they might not be exactly groundbreaking, they are a hell of a lot more interesting and fun then Gaga or Katy Perry.
Fever Ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-CpE73o2M

Some more
Dirty Projectors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMPF6lpM0XM

Santogold, waaayyy more interesting than Rihanna or FeFe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXpZi...eature=related

Vampire Weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1x...eature=related

The XX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pib8eYDSFEI

The Gossip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mQVljB7JGw

Digitalism, anyone into electronic has this album though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sicf2...eature=related

Grizzly Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjecYugTbIQ

And just cuz I like grime ( hip-hop- electronic mix) , UK's Wiley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnezldGu7JU
If you need or want some more, just let me know.

[Lil' Hannah]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Vampire Weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1x...eature=related

LOL Paul Simon says hi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fS_7Yp0hY

[33girl]

FWIW, I am listening to XFM (a UK station) right now, as I usually am. I like the XX and I think The Gossip is way overrated. If Beth Ditto lost half her body weight and said she likes dudes now I think that a lot of their critical appreciation (as well as a large part of their audience) would evaporate.

Fever Ray is Bjorklike.

I'll come back to this later when I have more time to listen.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think The Gossip is way overrated. If Beth Ditto lost half her body weight and said she likes dudes now I think that a lot of their critical appreciation (as well as a large part of their audience) would evaporate.

I've seen them live and they are good.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Fever Ray is Bjorklike.

I'm just going to let this one go

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah

LOL Paul Simon says hi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fS_7Yp0hY

Yes, they have a Paul Simon/ World Music sound but they aren't clones. They have their own thing they bring to the table, and they are cool. Paul Simon is not cool. This isn't a thing of,

"well Buddy Holly used a guitar solo in his song, so every artist that uses a guitar solo is copying Buddy Holly"

I'm just saying that the claim that there's no new bands making the scene so Lady Gaga or Katy Perry is all we have, is false.

The examples I posted are very mainstream acts, but are yet not played on the radio. I'm just trying to show that there are other options.

I'm not sure what you guys are looking for in NEW. Do you want someone to invent a new instrument or something?

[Lil' Hannah]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Paul Simon is not cool.

Uhh, that's not the point (or even really true).

I'm just saying that the claim that there's no new bands making the scene so Lady Gaga or Katy Perry is all we have, is false.

Did anyone actually say that? I think the basic argument was that Katy Perry and Gaga are just reincarnations of past pop singers/acts. Not that they're the only people putting out music right now.

I'm not sure what you guys are looking for in NEW. Do you want someone to invent a new instrument or something?

Again, I think all anyone is saying is that it's all been done before and it will all be done again.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah

Did anyone actually say that? I think the basic argument was that Katy Perry and Gaga are just reincarnations of past pop singers/acts. Not that they're the only people putting out music right now.

But don't think of them as the best that's out there, or that they are popular because they are actually really talented. I think this topic is getting muddled by different points, I jumped in to talk about artists altering their music for mass appeal and the so called dying music industry.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I'm not sure what you guys are looking for in NEW. Do you want someone to invent a new instrument or something?

As long as it's not the vuvuzela, I'm cool.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I beg to differ, there's a lot of NEW, great music out there but people like you just don't care to explore/search out/find it so the industry pumps out this crap because the general public will eat it up. Since the popularization of itunes almost anyone can release and sell their own music online, it's not like it was 15 years ago where you had to be signed under a major label just to get your record album up for sale. Not sure but I've heard that there are twice as many record labels and higher concert revenues today than there were 20 years ago. It's not the music industry thats hurting, it's the 5 record labels that 20 years ago controlled 90% of the industry and made billions that are the ones hurting.

Stop making assumptions about me and the music I listen to and what I do or do not do when looking for new music based on ONE paragraph.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Stop making assumptions about me and the music I listen to and what I do or do not do when looking for new music based on ONE paragraph.

I don't have to make assumptions, you stated yourself that Rihanna is "fierce" and that you adore Lady Gaga.