California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

It'll be interesting to see what happens with it, since in this case the court was considering a 2000 voter initiative that by statute limited marriage to a man and woman. Accordining to the Wiki, it passed with 61% voting in favor. I wonder if that might mean that this initiative also has a decent chance of passing.

The California Supreme Court in doing this may well have delivered the State of California's electoral college delegates to John McCain assuming this Amendment can get on that ballot (which I'll bet will be a major fight).

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by jon1856

"The decision was a bold surprise from a moderately conservative, Republican-dominated court . . .

Originally Posted by Kevin

The California Supreme Court in doing this may well have delivered the State of California's electoral college delegates to John McCain . . .

It's a plot.

. . . assuming this Amendment can get on that ballot (which I'll bet will be a major fight).

I don't know. According to the California Secretary of State's office, 694,354 are required to get a proposition for a constitutional amendment on the ballot. According to the NYTimes, proponants of the proposition have collected 1.2 million signatures, which are currently being verified. My understanding is that if they have 694,354 valid signatures (non-repetative signatures of registered voters), then it will be on the ballot. It may already be pretty much a done deal.

[TrojanWoman]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The California Supreme Court in doing this may well have delivered the State of California's electoral college delegates to John McCain

Please, we're still in California . . .

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Wow, I did NOT see that coming from you, PhiGam. I'm impressed!

Paging Karl Rove... blech

Assumptions... I'm not religious so I guess it doesn't bother me.
Either way, a ban is not unconstitutional and this judge should lose his office.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Why do gays (and all their supporters) feel the need to change the definition of marriage?

I'm with you. I don't get it either. I never understood why gay people decided to turn their private lives into a political agenda.

Not to be a complete prick, but I don't know any gay people and I prefer not to engage them in morality debates. Could someone please explain the need for this? I honestly thought that civil unions accomplished the same thing.

I do know gay people, but I do try to avoid the morality debate with them. I have decided that I will not try to convince them of my view point as I will not be convinved by theirs. I just stick to weather and general chit chat.

I won't disappoint though. In fact, I'm not sure how much I can participate in this thread for the sheer amount of nausea it's already causing me.
So where are the rest of you anti gay marriage folk?

I'm here.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I'm with you. I don't get it either. I never understood why gay people decided to turn their private lives into a political agenda.

How did gay people turn their private lives into a political agenda?

[Senusret I]

woooooooow

[nate2512]

This is the most ridiculous thing ever. While the rest of the world is concerned with things like global warming, soaring oil prices, and a recessed economy, all the selfish homosexuals are worried about are themselves, its the most ridiculously selfish thing I've ever heard in my life. We don't need to be spending all this taxpayer money just so gays can call themselves married. Next time you all gripe about oil prices remember that you're also working your ass off just so gays can use up all of your tax dollars tying up courts that could be used for something much more useful. Give it a break, gays are disgusting, and it's morally wrong.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by nate2512

This is the most ridiculous thing ever. While the rest of the world is concerned with things like global warming, soaring oil prices, and a recessed economy, all the selfish homosexuals are worried about are themselves, its the most ridiculously selfish thing I've ever heard in my life. We don't need to be spending all this taxpayer money just so gays can call themselves married. Next time you all gripe about oil prices remember that you're also working your ass off just so gays can use up all of your tax dollars tying up courts that could be used for something much more useful. Give it a break, gays are disgusting, and it's morally wrong.

I don't think that homosexuals are the ones making the fuss.

[DSTCHAOS]

You selfish gays, you.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I don't think that homosexuals are the ones making the fuss.

Because straight people want to be married to people of the same sex?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Because straight people want to be married to people of the same sex?

Yes, that's exactly what I meant

Gay people are seeking the right to be equal in this matter. It's others who are getting up in arms about it, hosting rallies and whatnot when they could be, as you put it, focusing on other issues.

[TrojanWoman]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Next time you all gripe about oil prices remember that you're also working your ass off just so gays can use up all of your tax dollars tying up courts that could be used for something much more useful.

Not sure I understand the correlation of this statement.

[DSTCHAOS]

I can think of bigger wastes of tax payer money. Some of which are being covered up by the Illuminati. Connnnnnnsssssspiraccccccccy theeeeeeoryyyyy.....

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Yes, that's exactly what I meant

Gay people are seeking the right to be equal in this matter. It's others who are getting up in arms about it, hosting rallies and whatnot when they could be, as you put it, focusing on other issues.

So gays don't participate?