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11-20-2007, 08:56 PM
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oh. my. god.
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11-20-2007, 11:10 PM
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Agreed. Unfortunately, a friend of mine in England has heard talk of people pushing for Sharia Law there, too.
Thanks for the link - very informative!
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11-20-2007, 11:56 PM
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Agreed. Unfortunately, a friend of mine in England has heard talk of people pushing for Sharia Law there, too.
Thanks for the link - very informative!
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I've seen videos of extremists protesting for Sharia in Trafalgar Square, but I honestly don't see the whole UK going Sharia ever. LOL, gotta love Londonistan.
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11-21-2007, 12:08 AM
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I've seen videos of extremists protesting for Sharia in Trafalgar Square, but I honestly don't see the whole UK going Sharia ever. LOL, gotta love Londonistan.
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LOL - hope you're right. My friend lives closer to the Manchester area - Manchestistan, I suppose.
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11-20-2007, 10:11 PM
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Can someone tell me why the laws have to change to ACCOMODATE a growing immigrant population? A "religious fundamentalist" one at that?
Immigrants must conform to the law of the land. Freedom of religion and speech do not mean a free for all.
This is what happens when tolerance and diversity rhetoric go waaaaay too far. This time it was in Germany.
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12-03-2007, 10:29 AM
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What a backwards culture.
I don't believe in that crap where we ought to value and respect other cultures no matter what. This kind of thing is something no one should turn a blind eye to.
The rape was a crime of animals. Hiding behind the law was an act of pure cowardice.
Someone tell me again why we protected these jackasses from Saddam in '90?
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12-03-2007, 10:48 AM
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What a backwards culture.
I don't believe in that crap where we ought to value and respect other cultures no matter what. This kind of thing is something no one should turn a blind eye to.
The rape was a crime of animals. Hiding behind the law was an act of pure cowardice.
Someone tell me again why we protected these jackasses from Saddam in '90?
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Kevin....In my opinion, I will say this....rape is barbaric...and no one should ever have to go thru that.
But, in light of her testimony and thier laws being what they are, answers some questions that I had all along since my OP
What was she doing out with this man? Why was she so pressed to get the photo back?
Yes, it's sad that this happened but think...if she had done it and got back home safely, no one would be the wiser.
Come on, let's think about this...how many times have we been told by our parents, or if you are a parents had to tell your children about being someplace you are not supposed to be, with someone you know you shouldn't be with, doing something you shouldn't be doing?
Tell me that you haven't been caught doing something you shouldn't have...
There are consequences and repercussions to knowingly disobeying, right?
We call it barbaric but yet and still Massachusetts is in the process of taking more power out of the hands of parents by trying to make it illegal to spank your child...
We may disagree what one does in thier own house either locally and globally but they have thier laws for a reason and so do we.
I do feel for this girl but.............I don't know........
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12-03-2007, 10:52 AM
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There are consequences and repercussions to knowingly disobeying, right?
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Rape, and then getting jailed for being raped?? I don't think so.
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12-03-2007, 10:57 AM
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Rape, and then getting jailed for being raped?? I don't think so.
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she did NOT get jailed for being raped....please go back and read the article.
Let's flesh this out ever further.....say she never got raped. Say nothing violent ever happened. But one of her brothers comes along and spotted her in the car. One of her cousins comes along and spotted her in the car. One of her relatives spotted her in the car.
with....a....man....not....related...to....her.
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12-03-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
...rape is barbaric...and no one should ever have to go thru that. But....
Yes, it's sad that this happened but...
There are consequences and repercussions to knowingly disobeying, right?
I do feel for this girl but.............
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DS,
It really sounds like you approve of what's happening to this poor girl. Every time you say something which sounds sympathetic to the girl's case, you follow it up with a " but...".
There's really no " but" to it, IMO. The additional consequences/repercussions she faces are out of line. She has suffered enough. Rape is bad. Gang rape is worse. There's no reason why the government should punish her even more. She's already faced her repercussions... from seven men... twice.
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12-03-2007, 03:52 PM
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DS,
It really sounds like you approve of what's happening to this poor girl. Every time you say something which sounds sympathetic to the girl's case, you follow it up with a "but...".
There's really no "but" to it, IMO. The additional consequences/repercussions she faces are out of line. She has suffered enough. Rape is bad. Gang rape is worse. There's no reason why the government should punish her even more. She's already faced her repercussions... from seven men... twice.
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I don't approve...however...that is the law...she broke it......this really is maginified due to the fact that she was raped...otherwise...if it didn't happen...still the initial crime according to thier law had to be settled if she was caught by someone else.
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12-03-2007, 03:55 PM
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I don't approve...however...
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That's just a fancy " but". I stand by what I said earlier. It sounds like you support what the government is doing.
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12-03-2007, 10:59 AM
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I'm disturbed because of the doubling of her original sentence for talking to the media. We don't always appreciate our freedom of speech - imperfect though it is - but boy, I sure do now.
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12-03-2007, 06:27 PM
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DS, I get your argument. I really do. She broke the law, there's no contesting that. But snidely asking how a young woman who has already endured the unimaginable rape and violence that she already has could have "avoided getting 90 lashes" is ridiculous. The punishment is outrageous and you know it. We're allowed to be outraged. I'm outraged any time I hear of injustice against women (or anyone) like this in any country, including ours. Is American society always fair? Absolutely not. But we don't immobilize and LASH people 90 to 200 times, either. It's barbaric there, here, now, 2000 years ago, I don't care, it's barbaric. NO justification.
ETA: And only because it's happened so often it's obviously not just a typo, it's THEIR
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12-03-2007, 06:41 PM
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DS, I get your argument. I really do. She broke the law, there's no contesting that. But snidely asking how a young woman who has already endured the unimaginable rape and violence that she already has could have "avoided getting 90 lashes" is ridiculous. The punishment is outrageous and you know it. We're allowed to be outraged. I'm outraged any time I hear of injustice against women (or anyone) like this in any country, including ours. Is American society always fair? Absolutely not. But we don't immobilize and LASH people 90 to 200 times, either. It's barbaric there, here, now, 2000 years ago, I don't care, it's barbaric. NO justification.
ETA: And only because it's happened so often it's obviously not just a typo, it's THEIR
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You want outrage?
Ok...let's try Glenarlow Wilson
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