Why I Left GreekChat

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

This is upsetting to many NPC members. Obviously, you're free to disagree but I'd like to suggest that maybe you just don't get it.

Or maybe we get it and it simply isn't that deep.

[Tom Earp]

I also found it interesting according to another poster that Delta Zeta was considered a second or third teir GLO!

Actually, the ASA and Tri SSS were considered State Teacher types of school. But, it seems that some schools and GLOs have grown up or expanded.

So, I will ask a question, is there any GLO on all major campuses/campi? Is there any GLO that is strong all across the 50 States? The same thing goes for any and all GLOs whether it be male or female or no matter what ethnic background.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

To be honest, I don't know why this girl sent the PM, or why this thread was started as a result of the PM.

Ditto

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

If you go to the memberlist and search her name, and then click on "View all posts by", you can see that she's here just to cause trouble. She deleted one of her three remaining posts, but someone kindly quoted her stupidity.

Ah yes! I do remember Cakey.

[Jen]

If everyone who ever got a nasty PM left Greekchat, this place would be a ghost town.

That being said, I think the PM should have stated that Kaikey had the problem with the OP, rather than the nameless, faceless "group of GCers", whoever they are.

Kaikey also has a right to have whatever opinion she likes about DZ. Personally, I always saw DZ as a large group with many strong chapters. I lost respect for the national organization after DePauw, however.

But aside from that, I find this post ridiculous. What are you hoping to gain? A group of people to get all upset that you want to leave GC? You want to point fingers and blame someone else for the fact you chose to leave? You want sympathy, to start shit up, to out someone who had the decency to PM you private instead of dragging this shit to the public boards as you have done?

Honestly all the "My daughter's a DZ at Bama..." at the beginning of every freaking post is annoying, and strikes me as major Stage Parent Syndrome, but that's just my opinion. So I can see where Kaikey may have wanted to shut you up for five seconds of peace.

But honestly, creating a thread to whine about how mean someone was to you on GC and they made you leave? Childish. Get over it and either leave or don't leave, but quit playing the "boo hoo, wahhhh, look how mean she is to me!" card like a little kid.

[susan314]

FTR - I do agree that it is generally poor message board etiquette (not just on GC, but all message boards) to post the contents of a private message in the public forum.

I can't find anything in kaikey's post to "defend," as I completely disagree with the contents of her message. (If she were representing it as her own personal viewpoint, that would be one thing. Jen summed that up pretty well.) But, in the interest of fairness, I will say that I don't necessarily agree with the idea to post the whole thing up on the board either.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

I don't know a whole lot about DZ, but I can say this...I truly believe "national reputations" are subject to region. Is it really written down somewhere? Is there a RULE for who has the best national reputations, or who the "big three" are? Based on where I grew up and my own knowledge I would have said Chi Omega...that just goes to show opinion is just opinion. I may have a low one of DZ's nationals' decision making abilities, BUT I'm sorry...there's NO way to convince me that DZ has a NATIONAL reputation as the "dog house". I guess opinion is opinion. But really now...how stupid.


And furthermore, let me say this. I don't know about DZ at Alabama. But if the guy's daughter is happy, a true DZ sister, and a productive member of her organization then I think more highly of her than anyone who might be in the "top" houses but treats their organization like a drinking club and nothing more. (And I'm not implying this is who the "top" houses are full of because if that was all they had they wouldn't be on top, but I unfortunately "know" some personally.) I don't give a damn about who the most "popular" letters on campus are. If the chapters have good, productive, loyal sisters then they are a "top" house in my eyes.

It's not the opinion of a majority of people here, as is obvious in this thread.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

Based on where I grew up and my own knowledge I would have said Chi Omega...that just goes to show opinion is just opinion.

Yeah, I've always thought/assumed that Chi-O and Tri-Delts are the 2 best known sororities nationally. Like you said, it probably depends upon the region where you grew up.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by susan314

Yeah, I've always thought/assumed that Chi-O and Tri-Delts are the 2 best known sororities nationally. Like you said, it probably depends upon the region where you grew up.

Exactly, it is based on the region you grew up with.

I mean in California, Alpha Phi has a strong presence, but it doesn't mean that in other parts of the country Alpha Phi is as strong.

It is unfortunate that Kaikey had to word things in such a way that it seemed like she was speaking for most people here...and it is not right to try and place blame on "teh cult" because as a member, I haven't said anything negative towards BamaDad.

But on the other hand, KaiKey is just stating her opinion, and if BamaDad feels that he wants to leave based on 1 person's opinion, they go ahead and don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. Like people have stated before if everyone left because of 1 negative thing someone said about us, then GC would be an empty place. Besides, this is the INTERNET, do you really give a rats ass what some person on the intarweb says about you?

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by susan314

Yeah, I've always thought/assumed that Chi-O and Tri-Delts are the 2 best known sororities nationally. Like you said, it probably depends upon the region where you grew up.

Yep. Around my hometown Tri-Delt, KD, and Kappa's are the big three to be...and I still would have put Chi-O on top nationally. But I really don't think it's written down somewhere that there are three "finest" in the country...and if there was, it would change decade to decade anyway.

[preciousjeni]

...question answered

[LampLady]

I am not sure of the motivation of this poster, but I rather doubt that her intentions are totally benevolent. (Her prior posts ask for advice on whether she should de-pledge a "loser sorority"?!) She can hold whatever personal opinion she wants regarding a DZ chapter of which she has personal knowledge, but I will take issue with some rather blatant misrepresentation of the facts.

For one, DZ is not a "teacher's college" sorority that is mainly represented on smaller campuses. It is true that DZ absorbed 3 smaller national sororities back in the 1950's and 60's that had a large number of chapters at state teacher's colleges. Some of these campuses already had a DZ chapter and some were smaller, non-viable chapters that were subsequently closed by DZ after the mergers. This is the reason that it appears that DZ has a larger number of closed chapters compared to other sororities. DZ is represented on a wide variety of campuses and our most recent colonizations have been at schools such as University of Florida, Wake Forest, Clemson, and Arizona State. These are obviously not smaller schools or "teachers colleges" (not that there is anything wrong with having chapters at these colleges.) At last count, DZ has 163 chapters, which makes it second only to ChiO in number of chapters.

Secondly, DZ does not have a negative reputation all over the country, as has been characterized by this poster. My own chapter was the largest in membership and has been one of the top 3 out of 11 in popularity on our campus for over 30 years. Of the 3 supposed "top tier' groups that were cited by this poster, 2 of them folded at my campus. Does this mean that these groups are not fine sororities? Of course not! It just means that reputation and chapter viability is different on each campus and many times changes over the years. I had never heard of the negative nicknames for DZ mentioned in her post and at Depauw. DZ has a fine reputation in the Great Lakes area, as well as in many other areas of the country, included TX, the area from which this poster claims her sorority membership. Although DZ does not have a large number of chapters in TX and LA, our chapters at Texas State, LSU, and U. of Houston (to name a few) are very strong and consistently make quota year after year.

Thirdly, the majority of posters on GC do not gossip about the posts of others, unlike her characterization of members making fun of your posts. Most of us are professional women that have better things to do with our time than such nonsense. I, personally, enjoy your posts and your intellectual curiosity and enthusiasm for your daughter's experience. So, my advice...consider the source... and let the facts speak for themselves. Thankfully, my many Kappa friends do not share her experience.

In the Flame,
Mary

Originally Posted by LampLady

I am not sure of the motivation of this poster, but I rather doubt that her intentions are totally benevolent. (Her prior posts ask for advice on whether she should de-pledge a "loser sorority"?!)

I'm in no way defending kaikey or the content of that PM, but if you're referencing this thread, she's not asking for advice on depledging a "loser sorority." She was giving advice to the OP of that thread who called her org. the "loser sorority."

Again, I'm not defending her, but if you're going to point out facts to back you up, they should be accurate.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by OTW

I'm in no way defending kaikey or the content of that PM, but if you're referencing this thread, she's not asking for advice on depledging a "loser sorority." She was giving advice to the OP of that thread who called her org. the "loser sorority."

Again, I'm not defending her, but if you're going to point out facts to back you up, they should be accurate.

You know what I thought was interesting about that thread? kaikey seemed to be sticking up for that chapter. (To an extent, anyhow.) I just thought it somewhat ironic that (based on my personal interpretation) her responses in that thread seem to be somewhat in contrast to the tone of her PM.