Race & Sororities - Page 3

LadyLonghorn · #1 05-17-2009, 11:48 AM

I don't mean this in a snarky way at all, but have any of the NPC sororities at Ole Miss ever had an African American or bi-racial member?

SWTXBelle · #2 05-17-2009, 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=LadyLonghorn;1809824]I don't mean this in a snarky way at all, but have any of the NPC sororities at Ole Miss ever had an African American or bi-racial member?[/QUOTE

I think this will be tough to answer, because NPC groups do not keep records according to race. An Ole Miss alum might be able to report on his/her experience, but that would both subjective and not necessarily representative.

brwn skn 79 · #3 05-17-2009, 07:16 PM

To be blunt, race is an issue...and it will/can/does become an issue when one is trying to gain access in a org that is predominantly one race.......just being realistic, but good luck. And don't think that black sororities don't have members of other races in them as my organization has plenty of indviduals of other races and we look past that.......we look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment.....color does not dictate that...

SWTXBelle · #4 05-17-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brwn skn 79

To be blunt, race is an issue...and it will/can/does become an issue when one is trying to gain access in a org that is predominantly one race.......just being realistic, but good luck. And don't think that black sororities don't have members of other races in them as my organization has plenty of indviduals of other races and we look past that.......we look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment.....color does not dictate that...

Which is it? That race is an issue if you are "trying to gain access in a(sic) org that is predominantly one race"(for example, your predominantly black GLO) or that it is possible for a GLO to "look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment.....(sic) color does not dictate that". ?

An issue? Yes, it can be - but , if I may tweak your own words - don't think that white sororities don't have members of other races in them as my organization (NPC) has plenty of individuals of other races. We look past that. We look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment. Color does not dictate that.

tld221 · #5 05-17-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Which is it? That race is an issue if you are "trying to gain access in a(sic) org that is predominantly one race"(for example, your predominantly black GLO) or that it is possible for a GLO to "look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment.....(sic) color does not dictate that". ?

An issue? Yes, it can be - but , if I may tweak your own words - don't think that white sororities don't have members of other races in them as my organization (NPC) has plenty of individuals of other races. We look past that. We look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment. Color does not dictate that.

co-sign: you said what i was thinking.

DrPhil · #6 05-17-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Which is it? That race is an issue if you are "trying to gain access in a(sic) org that is predominantly one race"(for example, your predominantly black GLO) or that it is possible for a GLO to "look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment.....(sic) color does not dictate that". ?

An issue? Yes, it can be - but , if I may tweak your own words - don't think that white sororities don't have members of other races in them as my organization (NPC) has plenty of individuals of other races. We look past that. We look for your drive, high character, leadership skills and commitment. Color does not dictate that.

I think she was trying to say that race is only a factor for the white sororities. LOL.

SWTXBelle · #7 05-18-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

I think she was trying to say that race is only a factor for the white sororities. LOL.

Oh - silly me!

DrPhil · #8 05-18-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Oh - silly me!

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(If anyone knows what commercial that comes from, you rock.)

GAgalBamabound · #9 05-19-2009, 10:46 PM

im in the same boat as you! except im going to bama.
im gonna rush, and not care what other people think. if anything, its gonna be a great way to meet people before school starts. ( i know ole miss has rush during the school year) Be yourself, dont try to be something youre not. If its meant to be, great, if not, dont worry about it. There are so many organizations you can join and be apart of on campus. You dont haveee to be in a sorority to have fun, but yes they are great for networking and social occassions on campus. Put your best foot forward all through rush, and show them who you really are. Dont focus on whether or not they are judging you.

I went to panhellenic weekend and some girls told me I would have a better chance with the NPHCs and others told me to go for it.
...Aint nothing to it but to do it :P

Plus...youre going to school in the SEC..what more could you ask for?
See ya when we beat yall AT HOME! (football)..with or without a sorority sticker

#10 05-19-2009, 11:08 PM

It's good to know i'm not the only one!
hmm... i don't remember hearing about a pan-weekend at ole miss.
but other schools are doing it.
maybe i just missed it :/
i'm to the point where i'd love to be in one but it won't make or break me.
i'm excited for the new opportunity and i'm going to give it all i've got.

and uhhh...
you seem like a WONDERFUL person.
but that 3 point win last year was a flukeee!
won't happen again

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Originally Posted by GAgalBamabound

im in the same boat as you! except im going to bama.
im gonna rush, and not care what other people think. if anything, its gonna be a great way to meet people before school starts. ( i know ole miss has rush during the school year) Be yourself, dont try to be something youre not. If its meant to be, great, if not, dont worry about it. There are so many organizations you can join and be apart of on campus. You dont haveee to be in a sorority to have fun, but yes they are great for networking and social occassions on campus. Put your best foot forward all through rush, and show them who you really are. Dont focus on whether or not they are judging you.

I went to panhellenic weekend and some girls told me I would have a better chance with the NPHCs and others told me to go for it.
...Aint nothing to it but to do it :P

Plus...youre going to school in the SEC..what more could you ask for?
See ya when we beat yall AT HOME! (football)..with or without a sorority sticker

KSUViolet06 · #11 05-19-2009, 11:53 PM

Also, I love the implication that NPCs are the only sororities in which there are race issues. Original.

deepimpact2 · #12 05-19-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Also, I love the implication that NPCs are the only sororities in which there are race issues. Original.

It's not about it being original. From what I gathered she wanted to know about whether she would have problems with predominately white sororities. So naturally the discussion would flow in that vein. That's not implying that NPC's are the only sororities in which there are race issues. I believe that if a white woman asked about her chances of joining a black sorority, race issues concerning NPHC's would be brought up.

Nice try though.

GAgalBamabound · #13 05-19-2009, 11:59 PM

( going back to just reading ,now

)

tld221 · #14 05-20-2009, 12:27 AM

^^^ at the end of the day, you're going to join a chapter that you feel like "yourself." Which could be any org. It sounds like you're willing to keep your options open. You should. And if its all meant to be, the chapter members will feel like they can be "themselves," in the case of this thread, not tiptoe around the race issue.

agzg · #15 05-20-2009, 01:07 PM

Here's a question I've been thinking about while reading this thread:

Does it really matter that the OP is biracial? Does having one white parent entitle you to NPC membership? Does having one black parent entitle you to NPHC membership? Do either of them predetermine whether or not someone would be more comfortable in an NPC or NPHC environment? Perhaps historically, and perhaps it's true of Ole Miss (I have no idea of the campus culture beyond "it's in the south"), but I think in particular there is so much that both types have to offer on the national level that stereotyping either is an exercise in futility.

I'm also borderline offended (I suppose as offended as I care to be seeing as this is an internet discussion) at the implication that NPC sororities hide their racism behind the idea that membership selection is private. If that's true of us, it's true of the NPHC and other types of GLOs as well. At the end of the day, private is private, and often times even the members that voted on specific potential new members do not know why that person was not offered the opportunity to join.

I'll admit that sometimes it could be as simple as the potential member's race, or their eye color or hair color or whether or not they're ugly or smelly or WHATEVER. Sometimes it's not. That fully depends on the chapter involved, the members of the chapter involved, and the specific organization. I do doubt, however, that any NPC has a check box for race on their membership forms.

At any rate, I think the best advice for ANY potential, be it NPC, NPHC, NALFO or local, is to be aware of what they want out of a greek life experience and to be the best potential member they can be. If the OP is not, then she's going to have a hard time getting into ANY organization. As far as she goes, she needs to make a decision which type best fits her own goals and to stick to it. Either way, she's going to limit herself.

Not that she hasn't limited herself already by posting as much as she did here. She might have limited herself to sorority chapters that have never seen nor heard of the internet.