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Old 08-12-2009, 03:44 AM
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I hope it turns out the way you want. As far as accuracy of pregnancy tests, even the dollar store tests are accurate...sometimes they are more accurate than the more expensive tests

I drilled into my now 19 year old stepson:
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I don't care if she says she is on the pill, diaphragm, iud or all of the above, you wrap your shit up!
Of course, that damn near gave my late MIL a heart attack but she got over it
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:41 AM
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Having an abortion because you were on the pill and it didn't work (somebody has to be that 56/100%) is NOT using abortion as a form of birth control.
If it's not a rape or a health issue then YES it is a form of birth control. I don't care if it's with or without a condom, pill or no pill, having sex equals the possibility of pregnancy. They can take those stats and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. If you REALLY don't want any kids, then STOP HAVING SEX. Period. I don't want to judge anyone, because I don't know everyones situation. I also can't say I'm following my own advice because I enjoy having sex, but at the same time if I were to end up pregnant I wouldn't get an abortion. It's wrong and it is a form of birth control.

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Sometimes people use protection, it fails, and have an abortion because they have other health conditions or are taking medications that would affect the fetus or their health. I'm taking three medications at the moment that are not healthy for a fetus or during breastfeeding, and I told a man in my life that until I'm off those medications I am not interested in a physical relationship as I am not okay with getting pregnant and being faced with a) an abortion b) going off my medication and having poor health while pregnant c) taking the chance there aren't birth defects d) having a miscarriage if I chose to continue a pregnancy that didn't start out healthy. Not all women who take medications that are unsafe for fetuses will make the same choice I do, but sometimes things happen and just be glad it isn't happening to you.
If I have health issues, then I'm not having sex. Dry hump or something.

That's good you told him you didn't want a relationship. A lot of people aren't like you so they wouldn't care. The joy of having sex is more important to them.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:06 AM
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So, is she or isn't she? Or was this all just a sad, pathetic cry for attention on her part?
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:25 AM
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If it's not a rape or a health issue then YES it is a form of birth control. I don't care if it's with or without a condom, pill or no pill, having sex equals the possibility of pregnancy. They can take those stats and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. If you REALLY don't want any kids, then STOP HAVING SEX. Period. I don't want to judge anyone, because I don't know everyones situation. I also can't say I'm following my own advice because I enjoy having sex, but at the same time if I were to end up pregnant I wouldn't get an abortion. It's wrong and it is a form of birth control.
Thank goodness your opinion only guides YOUR vagina and YOUR womb.

Thank goodness women have the choice of not being stuck with a pregnancy despite taking the necessary precautions. In fact, it's still their business and their choice even if they were careless and stupid.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:58 AM
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Thank goodness your opinion only guides YOUR vagina and YOUR womb.

Thank goodness women have the choice of not being stuck with a pregnancy despite taking the necessary precautions. In fact, it's still their business and their choice even if they were careless and stupid.
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with CG (partially) on this, but I think that the situation (strictly as 33girl described it, without any mitigating health factors) is using abortion as a form of birth control.

That said, I also agree with you that I think the choice is properly left with the woman/potential mother.
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:13 AM
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I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with CG (partially) on this, but I think that the situation (strictly as 33girl described it, without any mitigating health factors) is using abortion as a form of birth control.
For most responsible people, it goes without saying that abortion should not be used as birth control. CG isn't just speaking on that extreme and the choices of the careless, though. She feels that even the most responsible approach to sex precludes abortion simply because having consensual sex means even the smallest possibility of pregnancy.

That is ridiculous.

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That said, I also agree with you that I think the choice is properly left with the woman/potential mother.
Yep.
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:15 AM
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For most responsible people, it goes without saying that abortion should not be used as birth control. CG isn't just speaking on that extreme and the choices of the careless, though. She feels that even the most responsible approach to sex precludes abortion simply because having consensual sex means even the smallest possibility of pregnancy.

That is ridiculous.
I'll agree on that - it's a pretty unrealistic view on the whole topic.
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:59 AM
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I'll agree on that - it's a pretty unrealistic view on the whole topic.
Yep.

I'd also hate for this to become the "lets debate abortion" thread, because very few people can really have a logical debate about the topic. It just ends up being stupid.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:17 AM
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(now we're totally off topic )
lol, i tried to re route, since it was my comment on getting a paternity test that sparked it all.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:20 AM
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The OP opened the door for all of these side topics. This is a dumb thread, anyway. He could have found out whether she is really pregnant and figured out the next step without creating this thread.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:21 AM
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lol, true.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:07 PM
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If it's not a rape or a health issue then YES it is a form of birth control.
Well, by the standard you're setting up, it's birth control even if it is rape or a health issue.

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Then stop doing it.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:28 PM
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The OP opened the door for all of these side topics. This is a dumb thread, anyway. He could have found out whether she is really pregnant and figured out the next step without creating this thread.
He's never coming back. He realized a few things:

1). She might be crazy.
2). If he indeed hit it without protection, then he looks crazy.
3). It's best not to put this stuff out to internet folks.

The more you know!

I hope she's not pregnant for realz, but putting someone through a pregnancy scare for grins is evil.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:24 PM
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She feels that even the most responsible approach to sex precludes abortion simply because having consensual sex means even the smallest possibility of pregnancy.
This was an awkward and long sentence. Sheesh.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:31 PM
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Well, by the standard you're setting up, it's birth control even if it is rape or a health issue.
I think this is a case of needing to define terms - "birth control" being the term subject to two definitions. "Birth control" - meaning any means to prevent a birth is one thing; by that definition, yes all abortion is a form of birth control, regardless of health issues or rape. A birth is prevented.

The second meaning being used here is a bit fuzzy to me - if rape or health concerns negate abortion as "birth control" - what do you mean by "birth control"?

eta - And yes, I see in reviewing the thread that the idea of rape or health concerns being a factor was in fact introduced by cheerfulgreek.
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