Is she pregnant?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

If it's not a rape or a health issue then YES it is a form of birth control. I don't care if it's with or without a condom, pill or no pill, having sex equals the possibility of pregnancy. They can take those stats and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. If you REALLY don't want any kids, then STOP HAVING SEX. Period. I don't want to judge anyone, because I don't know everyones situation. I also can't say I'm following my own advice because I enjoy having sex, but at the same time if I were to end up pregnant I wouldn't get an abortion. It's wrong and it is a form of birth control.

Thank goodness your opinion only guides YOUR vagina and YOUR womb.

Thank goodness women have the choice of not being stuck with a pregnancy despite taking the necessary precautions. In fact, it's still their business and their choice even if they were careless and stupid.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Thank goodness your opinion only guides YOUR vagina and YOUR womb.

Thank goodness women have the choice of not being stuck with a pregnancy despite taking the necessary precautions. In fact, it's still their business and their choice even if they were careless and stupid.

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with CG (partially) on this, but I think that the situation (strictly as 33girl described it, without any mitigating health factors) is using abortion as a form of birth control.

That said, I also agree with you that I think the choice is properly left with the woman/potential mother.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with CG (partially) on this, but I think that the situation (strictly as 33girl described it, without any mitigating health factors) is using abortion as a form of birth control.

For most responsible people, it goes without saying that abortion should not be used as birth control. CG isn't just speaking on that extreme and the choices of the careless, though. She feels that even the most responsible approach to sex precludes abortion simply because having consensual sex means even the smallest possibility of pregnancy.

That is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

That said, I also agree with you that I think the choice is properly left with the woman/potential mother.

Yep.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

For most responsible people, it goes without saying that abortion should not be used as birth control. CG isn't just speaking on that extreme and the choices of the careless, though. She feels that even the most responsible approach to sex precludes abortion simply because having consensual sex means even the smallest possibility of pregnancy.

That is ridiculous.

I'll agree on that - it's a pretty unrealistic view on the whole topic.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I'll agree on that - it's a pretty unrealistic view on the whole topic.

Yep.

I'd also hate for this to become the "lets debate abortion" thread, because very few people can really have a logical debate about the topic. It just ends up being stupid.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

She feels that even the most responsible approach to sex precludes abortion simply because having consensual sex means even the smallest possibility of pregnancy.

This was an awkward and long sentence. Sheesh.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This was an awkward and long sentence. Sheesh.

Eh, I understood what you were saying - everyone is entitled to an awkwardly-phrased thought.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Eh, I understood what you were saying - everyone is entitled to an awkwardly-phrased thought.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[VandalSquirrel]

I have a problem with people who use Plan B as birth control instead of using one or more readily available forms of birth control and using the Plan B for a real emergency situation, as it was intended. I have met college women who have been so intoxicated they weren't sure if they had sex or used any form of protection, so they take a Plan B after partying "just to be safe" because pregnancy is so much worse than herpes or HPV.

Plus it is much cheaper to buy condoms and something else (foam, sponge, so on) than it is for Plan B three time a month (yes, three times, once for every weekend, the other week she had her period so she knew she was okay). Plan B is $50 but you can buy it in bulk from www.drugstore.com with no prescription. I blame abstinence only sex education and lack of good information on how our bodies work for people abusing Plan B, let alone the idiocy of not being aware of sexual activity or protection due to alcohol and drug abuse.

Oh and here's a funny, right next to the register of my pharmacy is the sexual health area (Plan B, condoms, pregnancy & ovulation tests) and right next to the Plan B is a paternity test! The package has all kinds of information for using it for legal purposes in court, but wouldn't going on Maury be cheaper?