Hazing allegations raised at WSU (Theta Chi and Delta Chi)

[seattlealum]

Originally Posted by coug4lfe

Do you honestly think that reporters don't "stretch" the facts for sensationalism? The facts are that 2 young men were brutally beaten after exchanging words at a pizza place. The Delta Chi's went back to their house, gathered up a larger group and then proceeded to beat the other 2 guys and left them bleeding on the sidewalk with severe injuries. It had nothing to do with hazing. It was not on fraternity property. It is being handled by Greek Life and by the fraternities themselves. Unfortunately, the cowards that did the beating have refused to come forward and are being protected by their "brothers." Hopefully, justice will eventually be served. The beaters will be prosecuted. In my opinion since the fraternity that was responsible for the brutality refuses to cooperate and the young cowards that are so filled with rage that they would injure a young man badly enough that he required his jaw to be wired shut have not come forward, that Delta Chi should be shut down. No amount of taunting or even property damage is an excuse or justification for the physical harm they caused. That they are still allowed to be on campus as a fraternity is beyond me. I would be totally ashamed to be a parent of a Delta Chi at Washington State.

you are wrong about most of your facts. you might want to be right before you quote things as the truth

[seattlealum]

Originally Posted by coug4lfe

If it was my kid that was curb stomped and has his jaw wired shut for months and cannot go back to school, you can bet I would have law enforcement and the Whitman county prosecuting attorney all over Delta Chi. I don't know why they were not shut down right away? They are not being forthcoming in who was involved.

no one got curb stomped. that would result in a broken neck, not jaw. and it wasnt a savage beating either. get your facts straight

[PeppyGPhiB]

Wow, I don't know where to start, "coug4lfe." I'm assuming you're talking to me, although my screenname is not "GammaPhiBeta."

First of all, I'm hardly ever on this board compared to many posters here. I come on for maybe a half-hour a day, if that. Perhaps you're confusing me with one of my many sisters on this board.

Second, you should work on your reading comprehension. I wrote that my brother said the fraternity guys at WSU were losers, not that I thought they were. In fact, I even said I didn't know any fraternity guys from WSU. But that doesn't mean I don't hear stories, and if all the stories I hear both by word-of-mouth and the news media are wrong, well, WSU's fraternities had better do a better job at PR. I never claimed to know a bunch of crap about the WSU fraternities, only said that I heard things...and honey, as we in the PR world say, "Word of mouth is the best medium of all."

Third, my brother transfered in to WSU as a junior after spending two years at a private school in Calif., where he rushed but decided not to accept any bids. The two of us are native Washingtonians with family that ALL went to either UW or WSU, and our high school is one of the biggest "feeders" of both greek systems. We have other greeks in our family and have good knowledge of the greek system, myself being a very active alumna of my own organization.

I'll close by saying that when I first read your posts, I thought you were a 20-year-old fraternity guy. I was stunned to see that you're a woman, and then also a parent of a college aged son. You might want to turn your juvenile "neeener neeener" rants toward the WSU administration or the two fraternities that got their chapters in this mess. I'm sure your experience as a parent has taught you that young people sometimes lie to cover the truth and that rarely are altercations one-sided.

[Tom Earp]

LOL, sorry, just laffing!

20 year old female with a person in college?

Of course, I must be missing something here?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

...when I first read your posts, I thought you were a 20-year-old fraternity guy.

I thought the exact same thing!

[breddi]

to coug4life, i dont know who you think you are saying delta chi brutally beat someone and left him on the street, you along with other people \are the reason US delta chis are getting this horrible reputation...you obviously dont know what happened and should keep your mouth shut until you do. This kid was in a one on one fight and got punched not "curb stomped" he would be dead if that were the case. there were many members watching the fight that involved only around 5 to 6 men. no one was beaten to death just hit very hard in a fair fight. and if i remember correctly the kids were both on their feet yelling death threats, not lying on the ground dying. Get your facts straight and quit making up bull shit.yes i am a WSU delta chi and damn proud along with my parents. You on the other hand are pathetic and need to get a life other than spreading false rumors about something you have no idea about. The men involved in the fight were not cowards and turned their names into the police the next day. there have been repeated offenses by theta chi memebers, each one involving them coming to our property and provoking everything, it is not over just a couple broken windows they are the ones who are risking our saftey and therefor should have been the only ones moved out.

[breddi]

you are a horrible person, you do not know the facts so stop talking. read my reply to your ridiculous post then message me back if the facts still aren't straight.

[seattlealum]

breddi, while agree with you, and made similar comments, try to avoid personal attacks as they reduce you to the same level

[breddi]

you are right, it is just difficult when people start rumors over false information, i just want people to know what really happened

[SigKapCoug]

Considering everyone is playing the hush-hush secret game, I'm not sure we WILL find out what actually happened.

[seattlealum]

after the university finishes their investigation, the truth will come out

[exlurker]

Update December 5, 2007

Five Delta Chis have been arrested, according to the campus paper.

http://www.dailyevergreen.com/story/24221

Excerpts from article in the Evergreen:

Five Delta Chi members were arrested Tuesday for a fight in late October that sent a man from another fraternity to a Seattle hospital.

. . . The charges stem from an Oct. 27 assault . . . in which the five allegedly fought with two members of the Theta Chi fraternity. One Theta Chi member suffered three fractures of his jaw . . . . The 20-year-old could have permanent nerve damage from the altercation, according to the police.

The arrests were the culmination of a monthlong investigation . . . .

Delta Chi President Branden Daubel said the fraternity’s judicial process is moving forward, along with a university Student Conduct investigation. The chapter is consulting with alumni and the national organization to decide what should happen with the members.

“There’s definitely people not coming back to the house next semester,” Daubel said. . . .

[exlurker]

Update December 7 '07: Article with Details of Several Incidents

The campus paper reports on sanctions for code of conduct violations. The article describes various incidents involving the two fraternities:

http://www.dailyevergreen.com/story/24249

Among the incidents reported in more detail:

* A couple of fights at the WSU vs. San Diego State football game: ". . . the board determined fraternity members, including minors, had been drinking. "

* A fight on September 28 at "an unregistered date dash" party sponsored / hosted by the Alpha Gamma Delta sorority

* A fight outside a pizza place (this is the incident where a Theta Chi member's jaw was fractured)

[Tom Earp]

This has to be one of the stupidous things I have ever seen a Greek or Greek Organizations do!