Hazing allegations raised at WSU (Theta Chi and Delta Chi)

[coug4lfe]

GammaPhiBeta, spoken like a true person that knows nothing about the REAL WSU. Get real. The Greeks ARE WSU. It is an awesome school and most of the people we went to school with that are our lifelong friends from the Greek system are multimillionaires and very loyal Cougs, so I guess it can't be all bad. It started with the former President that was bound and determined to shut down the Greek system at WSU (he is of the religious persuasion that does not allow alcohol use or at least purports not to, but we all know how that goes!) It is totally ridiculous. We did way worse things than any of the houses that are getting shut down left and right are doing. Our school President at the time came to our parties. The "losers" in the dorms and apartments also did way more drugs than the Greeks. Is that better? My bet is that your brother would not have been accepted by any house, anyhow. Also, my brother was president of his frat and he was accepted into the top Dental School in the nation. My husband was also president of his fraternity and is highly successful. Okay, Gamma Phi Beta...why on earth are you on this board 24/7? No job? Nothing else to do? Are you really even in a sorority or have you just watched too much Legally Blond and Animal House? Finally, it does not take a lot to get shut down at WSU. Quite the opposite. The Greeks are the target because they are the visible group. The same thing goes on at UW. My daughter is a recent grad and sorority member. She said the Greeks were always targeted when they had absolutely nothing to do with any of the problems. They were discriminated against.

This problem is not so much a Greek thing anymore. It is a police matter. IMO, the police and the University have dropped the ball. If it was my kid that was curb stomped and has his jaw wired shut for months and cannot go back to school, you can bet I would have law enforcement and the Whitman county prosecuting attorney all over Delta Chi. I don't know why they were not shut down right away? They are not being forthcoming in who was involved. The Theta Chi's are. They have a policy that any involvement at all will result in immediate expulsion from the fraternity. I wonder if Delta Chi can say the same thing? Again, property damage and verbal taunting are not the same as beating the heck out of a kid, especially in the cowardly manner in which it was done. The D-Chi's went back to their house and rounded up several more guys and then went back to Pappa John's and beat the TWO Theta Chi's brutally. Cowards.

[coug4lfe]

I am sorry for the rant. It is ridiculous to even answer ignorant comments like, "my brother would not join a frat at WSU because they were losers." That does not even merit a reply. I apologize to all the loyal Cougs. I am tired of the media and know nothings speculating and making ridiculous statements about nothing of which they have any first hand experience or knowledge.

I am really mad that both fraternities will most likely be closed down. In my mind that is condoning violence. It is okaying what Delta Chi's did by saying, well, Theta Chi's deserved what they got because they broke the glass doors at Delta Chi's. How insane? How unjust? For the record, it was only a few involved and none of my family members. They were too busy studying and working at productive things and being good fraternity brothers to be bothered by the drama of some immature and brutal jerks.

[seattlealum]

Originally Posted by coug4lfe

If it was my kid that was curb stomped and has his jaw wired shut for months and cannot go back to school, you can bet I would have law enforcement and the Whitman county prosecuting attorney all over Delta Chi. I don't know why they were not shut down right away? They are not being forthcoming in who was involved.

no one got curb stomped. that would result in a broken neck, not jaw. and it wasnt a savage beating either. get your facts straight

[PeppyGPhiB]

Wow, I don't know where to start, "coug4lfe." I'm assuming you're talking to me, although my screenname is not "GammaPhiBeta."

First of all, I'm hardly ever on this board compared to many posters here. I come on for maybe a half-hour a day, if that. Perhaps you're confusing me with one of my many sisters on this board.

Second, you should work on your reading comprehension. I wrote that my brother said the fraternity guys at WSU were losers, not that I thought they were. In fact, I even said I didn't know any fraternity guys from WSU. But that doesn't mean I don't hear stories, and if all the stories I hear both by word-of-mouth and the news media are wrong, well, WSU's fraternities had better do a better job at PR. I never claimed to know a bunch of crap about the WSU fraternities, only said that I heard things...and honey, as we in the PR world say, "Word of mouth is the best medium of all."

Third, my brother transfered in to WSU as a junior after spending two years at a private school in Calif., where he rushed but decided not to accept any bids. The two of us are native Washingtonians with family that ALL went to either UW or WSU, and our high school is one of the biggest "feeders" of both greek systems. We have other greeks in our family and have good knowledge of the greek system, myself being a very active alumna of my own organization.

I'll close by saying that when I first read your posts, I thought you were a 20-year-old fraternity guy. I was stunned to see that you're a woman, and then also a parent of a college aged son. You might want to turn your juvenile "neeener neeener" rants toward the WSU administration or the two fraternities that got their chapters in this mess. I'm sure your experience as a parent has taught you that young people sometimes lie to cover the truth and that rarely are altercations one-sided.

[Tom Earp]

LOL, sorry, just laffing!

20 year old female with a person in college?

Of course, I must be missing something here?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

...when I first read your posts, I thought you were a 20-year-old fraternity guy.

I thought the exact same thing!