Switching from a Local Sorority to a National One - Page 2

mkprncss · #16 04-27-2010, 11:03 PM

Thanks everyone for the advice so far! Depending on what the greek advisor says tomorrow I have a few different ideas. I believe she wants to gather the executive boards of all 4 sororities and let me get the "go-ahead" from them as well. I'm not sure if she wants me to tell the exec's why I'd like to re-rush or what.

@KSUViolet06 For the record, I was only in the local chapter for one full semester and 3/4s of the second semester. It has been a full year since I left the local chapter.

And I know for a fact that this sorority is very organized and well put together. Because I don't want to give away my location nor my actual school, I can't really go into detail here and give more explanation.

@33girl The local chapter is part of the Panhel.

chickenoodle · #17 04-27-2010, 11:04 PM

You're right. Perhaps it might mean something to someone else who may search this topic.

mkprncss · #18 04-27-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chickenoodle

I apologize for the highway hop, as I'm not in a NPC org.

1) How do you (the OP) know if the grass is greener on the (NPC) side? You are not privy to the inner workings of that sorority.

2) I may not be in a sorority, but I am a member of a GLO and I don't presume to know what values your sorority stands for. However, you took the oath and swore to uphold the ideals and code your sorority stands for. Since you were initiated and were a member for 2 years, I assume those ideals mean something to you.

If you don't like how things are going, make an effort to change things. Head up a Sisterhood Chair to increase moral and sisterhood. Learn Robert's Rules and run for Chancellor or run a workshop for your sisters. My point is, you can't bitch about everything wrong and do nothing to (at least try to) improve your situation.

(I apologize again; I hope I didn't leave anyone's toes too bloody.)

I mentioned above that I don't want to give details that can give away my school because I don't want anyone to know about it yet. But I do know that their grass is greener. If I could give you the hard evidence I'm sure you'd understand :/

I did make an effort to change things while I was there. The problem was rallying other girls to care enough to want to put the change into effect.

mkprncss · #19 04-27-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines

If she is already friends with girls in it why join? The bond is already there it just seems she wants to join for the name sake.

I am not close friends with the girls I already know-- just hello and small talk. I want to join them because their philanthropy and what they do for it is stellar. It's something that I really believe in! And yes, I could do it by myself but the group effort is really appealing to me. . Since my life already revolves around the greek system, I want to get fully back into it.

KSUViolet06 · #20 04-27-2010, 11:21 PM

Just so you know, the Greek Advisor can tell all of the sororities you're going to be re-rushing until the cows come home. They can say "ok, cool."

He/she cannot ask them/make them give you a bid.

Just putting that out there in case you think that this meeting with the sororities = one of them is going to extend me a bid.

mkprncss · #21 04-27-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Just so you know, the Greek Advisor can tell all of the sororities you're going to be re-rushing until the cows come home. They can say "ok, cool."

He/she cannot ask them/make them give you a bid.

Just putting that out there in case you think that this meeting with the sororities = one of them is going to extend me a bid.

I realize that. I don't expect them to give me a bid--I just hope so! I realize that they may not want to give me a bid at all because I have already been in a sorority. I know that's the biggest problem.

atoheadlines · #22 04-27-2010, 11:50 PM

KSU are you with me when you wanna just go ugh when a girl states she loves a philantrophy and joins that sorority. The reason you join is for the charity work yeah right! Frankly, any charity you support is helping something so I don't think anyone should be like this 1 is better than the other.

mkprncss · #23 04-28-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines

KSU are you with me when you wanna just go ugh when a girl states she loves a philantrophy and joins that sorority. The reason you join is for the charity work yeah right! Frankly, any charity you support is helping something so I don't think anyone should be like this 1 is better than the other.

The local I was in switched philanthropies roughly 4-5 times in the two semesters I was there. One we raised money for a specific charity and the check was never (and to my knowledge still not) delivered to the charity.

I listed other reasons as to why I'd like to join... If you'd like to me to go into better detail I could.

als463 · #24 04-28-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines

KSU are you with me when you wanna just go ugh when a girl states she loves a philantrophy and joins that sorority. The reason you join is for the charity work yeah right! Frankly, any charity you support is helping something so I don't think anyone should be like this 1 is better than the other.

Ummmm...I disagree with your statement, wholeheartedly! One of the main reasons I joined Phi Mu was because I really felt a close connection to their philanthropy of Children's Miracle Network. I'm proud that my chapter from Penn State is largest money raiser for our national philanthropy through THON and our See-Saw Marathon. This year, alone, my sisters raised over $100,000 for CMN.

In fact, when I went through recruitment, I fell in love with a few of the sororities because they have some great philanthropies. Sometimes people join organizations for reasons that aren't always so vain. Sure, partying was fun but, don't look down on this girl for wanting to make a difference. As an Alumna, I give money back to my sorority, as well as, every year giving money to Penn State. Good for her!

If there are national organizations, I don't really understand the appeal of a local sorority or fraternity. I have always said I would rather join a GLO that was national, even if it was the "worst" on campus over a GLO that is local, even if it was the "best" on campus. I have my personal reasons but, I hope you get into your sorority-but, still keep the others in mind. Don't be too picky or you may be disappointed. Also, by you statement about it having to do with women all over, I'm thinking you mean "Heart Disease" and that makes it pretty easy to figure out what sorority you want to join. Good luck, though.

33girl · #25 04-28-2010, 12:14 AM

If the local is a full member of Panhel, you should not rush a new sorority.

As I stated before, it would be a total diss/invalidation of your previous sorority, and unless the local is a total and complete joke and no one on campus respects them, any NPC that takes you is not going to be looked at kindly either. "Wow...XYZ must be in trouble...they're taking the local's leftovers."

Seriously, I would not have any respect for a chapter that did this. You would have to be super incredible awesome to infinity (or, as I said, the local would have to be a complete joke on the verge of dying out, and even then people might have pity on them) for a chapter to take on the burdens that might come with bidding you.

mkprncss · #26 04-28-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by als463

Also, by you statement about it having to do with women all over, I'm thinking you mean "Heart Disease" and that makes it pretty easy to figure out what sorority you want to join. Good luck, though.

It's not heart disease. It's just something that happens to only have occurred to women I know. It effects men too--I just don't know any personally.

mkprncss · #27 04-28-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

If the local is a full member of Panhel, you should not rush a new sorority.

As I stated before, it would be a total diss/invalidation of your previous sorority, and unless the local is a total and complete joke and no one on campus respects them, any NPC that takes you is not going to be looked at kindly either. "Wow...XYZ must be in trouble...they're taking the local's leftovers."

Seriously, I would not have any respect for a chapter that did this. You would have to be super incredible awesome to infinity (or, as I said, the local would have to be a complete joke on the verge of dying out, and even then people might have pity on them) for a chapter to take on the burdens that might come with bidding you.

Do you say this coming from a campus that's much larger than mine? Just curious.

I feel that ours is small enough that nearly everyone knows why I left the local. If not everyone knows then it would certainly spread when someone saw I wanted to rush again.

Would anyone else feel the way 33girl feels about all this?

33girl · #28 04-28-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mkprncss

Do you say this coming from a campus that's much larger than mine? Just curious.

I feel that ours is small enough that nearly everyone knows why I left the local. If not everyone knows then it would certainly spread when someone saw I wanted to rush again.

Would anyone else feel the way 33girl feels about all this?

I say this coming from a campus that had 7 sororities, about 50 people each. There appear to be things you aren't telling us (to conceal your identity, which I totally understand) that you think would validate your decision in the eyes of the campus. My outlook is, if the local is SO bad that this kind of thing would be accepted, I'm frankly surprised there hasn't been an outcry to shut them down or at least kick them out of Panhel.

I really think you're overestimating how much these girls in the other group (and the Greek system in general) dig you. I also think you're overestimating that lots of philanthropy $$ = awesome sorority.

als463 · #29 04-28-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mkprncss

It's not heart disease. It's just something that happens to only have occurred to women I know. It effects men too--I just don't know any personally.

Oh, sorry. Breast Cancer? I completely forgot about that. I know what organization now. Like I said before, all the NPCs have something to offer. I really hope you keep your options open because some of the women may feel the same way as 33girl. She is giving you honest (and good) advice about how people may look at you. I really hope it works out for you because going Greek was one of the best things I've ever done. Good luck to you!

mkprncss · #30 04-28-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I say this coming from a campus that had 7 sororities, about 50 people each. There appear to be things you aren't telling us (to conceal your identity, which I totally understand) that you think would validate your decision in the eyes of the campus. My outlook is, if the local is SO bad that this kind of thing would be accepted, I'm frankly surprised there hasn't been an outcry to shut them down or at least kick them out of Panhel.

I really think you're overestimating how much these girls in the other group (and the Greek system in general) dig you. I also think you're overestimating that lots of philanthropy $$ = awesome sorority.

I'd hope that because they know I've already been in a sorority that they would discuss this within their boards before extending or not extending a bid to me.