UF Spring Recruitment!! - Page 13

FSUZeta · #1 01-17-2012, 12:51 PM

Quoted from Dubai Sis-

"This is why I also think the campus panhellenics should endeavor to have actual total be very close to the prescribed total. I'm all for having a portion of the chapters "have" to do a spring rush in order to make up for the girls who pledged but didn't initiate, early grads and the variety of other reasons they lose members in a semester. Then they can accommodate the girls who simply didn't know better or who were so unprepared that they just bombed during rush when they are otherwise good candidates."

"When they're so far over total the only chapters informal rushing are the ones that are struggling and that puts a negative connotation on informal rush." [I]Spring 2010 the largest chapter at UF had approximately 178 members, the smallest had 122, so at least at UF, we are not talking a noticeable difference (numbers wise) to most PNMs during formal recruitment. Now perceived difference is something again, and something that no one has yet to figure out a way to combat. Sad thing is, we could probably randomly pick girls from each chapter and put them in one room, and we would not be able to pick out the ABCs from the DEFs, but the students on campuses think there is a difference.[/I]

"Are there any inklings of expansion at UF? In the meantime, increasing total is at least a compromise." I haven't heard any news about expansion, but often total is raised before a new group comes on. The problem at UF(like so many colleges) is that a new group would need a house and there are none available in the Panhellenic Drive area(where the majority of the sorority houses are). Pi Phi is in amongst the fraternities, but I don't know if there are any lots over there or anywhere near the university.

"I would like to see them do a Preference Night to help solidify some decisions on both sides and maybe give some girls a head's up that #1 super duper chapter is not going to be calling in a week when they have a bid from perfectly fine chapter in hand right now."Maybe they will eventually come to that plan. Informal recruitment is not something that is common to most of the chapters at UF, so it is a work in progress.
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KSUViolet06 · #2 01-17-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I can also see this being a big hot mess if all the chapters want the same set of girls. If you have 10 chapters that can give 20 bids, that's technically 200 bids - but how many are going to go to the same 20 or so girls? This could take awhile to get sorted out.

Right. I also thought about the whole chapters contacting PNMs. It has to come down to who contacts you first on some level. And with some chapters potentially bidding the same girls, and having some not accept, and moving on to others, that could be interesting.

For example, you're a PNM and you have visited all chapters and have a top 2. With a #2 that you like and a #1 that you love love love.

So, you're contacted first by your #2. That's pretty exciting, so you accept, figuring it's your #2 and that's probably the best "offer" you're going to get. You figure that your #1 probably isn't going to call you anyway.

Two days later, you get a call from your #1. They maybe had some girls not accept and have decided to offer you a bid.

Uh oh.

I guess what I'm wondering is how long do the PNMs have to accept bids and is there a definitive time period for bidding so PNMs can maybe see what all has been offered to them BEFORE they make decisions?

DubaiSis · #3 01-17-2012, 12:37 PM

That all being said, I would counsel these girls to not go off the deep end if they don't get a bid in the first day or two.

If they're doing a big informal like this again next year, I'd really consider doing a much more structured informal, with Rho Chis and bid matching, etc.

33girl · #4 01-17-2012, 12:42 PM

They either need to go way more structured or way more unstructured (i.e. the women who get bids are women who probably already know sorority members). I know they're trying to remove some of the stigma from spring rush and that is awesome, but when it's a clusterfuck, it just makes the sororities resentful of having to do it at all.

ggforever · #5 01-17-2012, 03:12 PM

Even houses that were WAY above the old total at UF were participating in recruitment this spring. Raising total by more than 20 women did not take into account normal ebs in membership (graduation, drops, transfers, etc). I know of at least one house that did not participate in this recruitment but plans on doing COB for the couple of women they need.

UFgatorLove · #6 01-17-2012, 03:25 PM

I have heard expansion rumors, but that's just smoke until total can be properly figured. I believe PC is seeing what numbers work comfortably with most chapters, then possibly expanding if the demand for becoming a sorority woman cannot be satiated by that number

FSUZeta · #7 01-17-2012, 05:34 PM

I believe someone said that the pnms will have 48 hours to accept or decline their bid.

FSUZeta · #8 01-17-2012, 06:44 PM

Good sleuthing HQWest. I could only find the 2010 spring statistics. The gap between smallest and largest had been narrowed.

Nope GatorPNM, you make perfect sense. I think that all the groups assume that most pnms will take their alloted time to make their decision. When you think about it, girls going through formal recruitment are getting several looks at chapters as the week progresses, so why not take your time?

IndianaSigKap · #9 01-17-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

good sleuthing. i could only find the 2010 spring statistics. the gap between smallest and largest had been narrowed.

I noticed that the size range of NPC sororities was very close 183-141. But then I checked the fraternity ranges, 153-10. Wow. The sororities seem to be larger than the fraternities. I wonder what effect, if any, it has on the social interaction between organizations.

GatorPNM · #10 01-17-2012, 06:45 PM

PS, I read somewhere that the new total is around 185, but don't quote me on that!

Low C Sharp · #11 01-18-2012, 11:18 AM

Congratulations, GatorPNM! Whatever happens next, you know you have a sisterhood you are thrilled to join. I hope you have a wonderful time!

DubaiSis · #12 01-18-2012, 12:38 PM

That's right - time to show the Panhellenic love. I would definitely email (or call but I don't think that's necessary) and politely decline and wish them the best of luck. They will appreciate the gesture and you never know when that courtesy will be repaid. In good karma if nothing more specific.

I'd like to add my congratulations! I hope you'll do a recruitment thread.

KSUViolet06 · #13 01-18-2012, 10:37 PM

^^^You just have to wait it out, guys.

I know it sucks, but that's all you can do.

DeltaBetaBaby · #14 01-18-2012, 11:57 PM

I'm going to hijack this thread for a moment. If they have more women showing up than they have bids, does that mean they set total too low? Part of me feels like they should try to accommodate everyone who is interested, and part of me knows that would hurt the smaller chapters. In any case, I'm inclined to say that with more than 4-5 chapters involved, there needs to be a) PH involvement in handing out bids, and b) at least one sort of "invitational" round so you don't end up with this kind of mess.

KSUViolet06 · #15 01-19-2012, 12:06 AM

^^^I think there is room for everyone on some level, as everyone is varying degrees of closeness to total. The thing is, I think that PNMs are generally all gunning for those groups who do have more interest than bids, which is where the problem starts.

Like, I'm sure there is room for everyone, if everyone "spreads out" and accepts bids to different groups, but that generally doesn't happen. Does that make sense? I have had a full day of kids and school. lol.