Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains

[SydneyK]

I found myself really pulling for Jerri in that last immunity challenge. It caught me off guard, since I hadn't really been that big of a Jerri fan throughout the season. Go figure.

I'm not surprised that Russell got zero votes - his social game, as expected, was terrible. Maybe some day he'll realize that and, should the opportunity present itself, he'll play smarter next time. Doubtful, but you never know.

I'm surprised Sandra won. I completely expected Parv to pull it off. I guess her association with Russell sealed her fate.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I'm really ok with Sandra winning...I didn't think I would be.

I wish when they were talking about Colby being older and not as good at challenges that they would have played the comment about "Superman wearing a fat suit" - I think JT said it, but it was priceless.

Superman in a fat suit was James I think.

Originally Posted by SydneyK

I found myself really pulling for Jerri in that last immunity challenge. It caught me off guard, since I hadn't really been that big of a Jerri fan throughout the season. Go figure.

I'm not surprised that Russell got zero votes - his social game, as expected, was terrible. Maybe some day he'll realize that and, should the opportunity present itself, he'll play smarter next time. Doubtful, but you never know.

I'm surprised Sandra won. I completely expected Parv to pull it off. I guess her association with Russell sealed her fate.

I was really expecting Parvati to win myself. Actually I was thinking that it would have been Jerri if she made it to the final 3. But once I saw she didn't I thought Parv. Really surprised Sandra won twice with the exact same game.

[DaffyKD]

Russell had some lines that made him look even more stupid than usual

1) "I am taking Sandra with me since she will get absolutely no votes from the jury." Look who received no votes.
2) "I did what I set out to do, I made them all look like idiots." Who looked like an idiot?
3) Regarding Sandra burning his hat, "That was a great move. By burning my hat, you made me all flustered at tribal council." Russell, do you honestly believe you would have won had the hat not been burned?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

I love how Russel did not get a single vote. And I loved Sandra for burning his hat.

Yep to both.

I was pulling for Parvati, but I'm okay with Sandra. At least Parvati showed good sportsmanship about it, unlike Russell.

Boston Rob and Jeff nailed Russell. He plays to get to the final 3, not to win, and he plays the game the way he thinks it should be (with America voting) and not the way it actually is. So glad he didn't get a single vote.

[Kappamd]

Lame ending. Sandra is the most worthless player in Survivor history and there is NO WAY she deserved to win.

Parvati probably deserved it the most because she played the social aspect of the game better than Russell, but I still wanted him to win.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

Lame ending. Sandra is the most worthless player in Survivor history and there is NO WAY she deserved to win.

I don't know. After winning once before, she went for 7 tribal councils after the merge with no alliance in place and no immunity (that anyone knew about) and still managed to make it to the final three. Pretty impressive to me.

Meanwhile, in his Reality News Online interview, Russell claims that Jeff Probst is "warped" and doesn't understand the game because he has bought into the erroneous notion that there is a "social aspect" to the game -- "there’s no social game on the [Outplay, Outwit, Outlast] sign." (Of course, this time the sign said "Return, Revenge, Redemption.")

He really needs to be quiet and go away. Permanently.

ETA: This is interesting from Jerri's RNO interview:

RNO: Why did you decide to vote for Parvati at the end after having initially indicated you’d probably vote for Russell?

Jerri: Russell made it very easy for me not to vote for him. When I got voted out, I really did respect the way Russell played the game… for the most part. We all make mistakes, definitely. Just judging by the decisions that Russell made and how they made a lot of sense for me as well, I was willing to give him my vote.

But sitting in the final Tribal Council and listening to him basically belittle and slap every single one of us in the face by saying things like denying that there was any luck involved in his game… We all know Survivor is 90% luck. And denying that anyone else helped him… I personally saved his butt one time specifically by choosing him over Rob. Not showing any gratitude, not being apologetic, not being respectful of all the people he had to oust. His arrogance just made me sick and there was no possible way I could give him my vote.

RNO: It was discussed at last night’s reunion, but who do you think is the best Survivor player ever?

Jerri: Oh wow. I have to say, I gotta give props to Parvati. I really do. That’s why I voted for her. She is probably one of the best social players, even though her flirtations are so blatant and out in the open and so sickening. I was so amazed at how it worked. I want to be friends with her for a long time because I want to learn her mojo. She played such a great strategic, physical, and mental game. Underneath it all, though, I am super happy that Sandra won if only because Russell absolutely hates her. It was poetic justice.

Colby basically says the same thing about Russell not getting any votes because of his arrogance.

[SydneyK]

I just read Jeff's last blog from this season - great, as always. I hope he continues to blog in future seasons. Anyway, this little gem was too good not to share. You tell 'em, Jeff!

"To those of you who think I suck as a host or as a blogger… kiss it." - Jeff Probst

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by Jen

I'm trying to remember why Danielle was a villain?

Same here. I don't remember Sandra being particularly villainous, either.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Same here. I don't remember Sandra being particularly villainous, either.

I don't think Sandra was that villanous but I seem to recall in the game that she said something along the lines of she would swear to anyone's face, and would cross her fingers behind her back and would vote out anyone, pretty much, as long as it wasn't her.

I don't really remember much about Danielle.

I wish Yao Man was back for a 3rd time. He was on the Fans vs. Favorites and he was awesome. He was also the first one to make a fake Immunity Idol, although no one got around to looking for it.

How appropriate that Parvati's surname is "Shallow" - LOL

I cannot stand Randy - he is too DUMB to be a villain. He was just annoying.

[thetygerlily]

Originally Posted by Jen

Apparently Samoa ended and then it was a couple weeks later this taped and Samoa didn't air until after taping for Heroes vs Villains began. So no one on Heroes vs Villains will have seen Russell on Samoa - they have no idea how he played.

Which explains why he hasn't changed his game play - he didn't know at that point that he had lost - only that he was in the final 3, and at that point, he probably thought he had it in the bag and his strategy was perfect.

Oh! I forgot about this part. DH and I were really confused, because at times his fellow Villains seemed to know of Russell and how villainous he is. In a way it seems only fair that they would give everyone a quick DVD of Russell snippets (since the entire season wasn't ready yet) so they knew what he was up to and how far he got, but at the same time... who said Survivor is about playing fair?

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by thetygerlily

Oh! I forgot about this part. DH and I were really confused, because at times his fellow Villains seemed to know of Russell and how villainous he is. In a way it seems only fair that they would give everyone a quick DVD of Russell snippets (since the entire season wasn't ready yet) so they knew what he was up to and how far he got, but at the same time... who said Survivor is about playing fair?

Well Russel is an arrogant bastard who probably told everybody he was final three. Also he had to be pretty bad to be on the villains team before his season even starts.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Jen

Apparently Samoa ended and then it was a couple weeks later this taped and Samoa didn't air until after taping for Heroes vs Villains began. So no one on Heroes vs Villains will have seen Russell on Samoa - they have no idea how he played.

Which explains why he hasn't changed his game play - he didn't know at that point that he had lost - only that he was in the final 3, and at that point, he probably thought he had it in the bag and his strategy was perfect.

Which is what I thought happened. But then one of the girls (can't remember her name) who Russell approached said, "I know that he's saying the same thing to everyone else," and then started going on and on about how she was making a deal with the devil, but she didn't want to go against him. It seems as though they must know SOMETHING about how he played the game in Samoa.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Which is what I thought happened. But then one of the girls (can't remember her name) who Russell approached said, "I know that he's saying the same thing to everyone else," and then started going on and on about how she was making a deal with the devil, but she didn't want to go against him. It seems as though they must know SOMETHING about how he played the game in Samoa.

I think Parvati has played the game enough to realize that if, on day one, someone's coming up to her saying the things Russell said, he's probably going up to others saying the same things. Plus, when you're on the villains tribe, you're probably safe in assuming that any deal you make is with a devil.

[thetygerlily]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Which is what I thought happened. But then one of the girls (can't remember her name) who Russell approached said, "I know that he's saying the same thing to everyone else," and then started going on and on about how she was making a deal with the devil, but she didn't want to go against him. It seems as though they must know SOMETHING about how he played the game in Samoa.

Yes, exactly- that is one of the comments that made me question it. Not that they can't figure it out from a) being on the Villains tribe and b) Jeff pointing him out as one of the 10 most notorious villains (which theoretically all 10 are, but it seemed to be more pronounced the way he pointed it out to Russell), but it seemed like they knew something about him.

ETA: I would've loved to see Amber back too. Especially on opposing tribes! But their daughter is pretty young so I can understand not wanting to take both parents away for so long. Wasn't she only a few months old when they started filming? I think she was born in August.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by thetygerlily

I think she was born in August.

That makes me like Rob even less. He has a newborn yet he is gone for over a month playing a game. Kind of F-ed up. Though actually I wonder, do the people who get kicked off early go home or are they sequestered until filming is over like TAR?