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08-18-2014, 10:12 PM
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National closed the entire Sigma Phi Epsilon chapter here at Ole Miss after the noose on the James Meredith statue incident earlier this year. Not only did the guys have their pins snatched, but the fraternity no longer exists here.
See the story here http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ole-miss...e-noose-tying/
I think it is very wise for all Nationals to step in and create a consequence for an action if the local actives and alums would merely turn a blind eye as they have for many generations. I think this strengthens, revives, and unifies the founding ideals of each GLO.
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08-18-2014, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartofsec
For the purposes of that specific article, yes, but that wouldn't explain why all the other screenshots posted about on the internet (independent of photoshop issue) also have the same mismatched "g"s.
Here's another screenshot, for instance, on a forum discussion that has nothing to do with the photoshop issue (scroll to 3rd post and click to enlarge):
http://www.the-mainboard.com/index.p....132183/page-2
Oddly the article regarding photoshop at the original link above has disappeared. Here is the cached original article:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Because one altered screen shot is the one being leaked to the media for damage control and is being distributed. We have no idea where these subsequent screen shots came from. We have no idea if they have been altered from a program with sketchy security issues to begin with. As someone who works with teenage girls, social media and photoshop in my line of work, you would be hard pressed to convince me otherwise.
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08-18-2014, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nanners52674
Sorry don't buy the photoshop, I'd hope any organizations nationals would look into things like that before pulling a pin. And if it is true anyway then wouldn't nationals want to make that known?
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Honestly I don't buy that a Chi O active would be so stupid and cruel as to post this. Even setting decency aside, she would know that severe repercussions from her sisters, nationals, and the university would follow.
I wonder if the girl, without any logical explanation for the offensive word (knowing she didn't type it), assumed it must have been auto-correct.
I hope that Chi O's "swift discipline" was not so swift that it shortchanged a thorough investigation in a rush for a PR save. That goes for the university, too.
So a question (from Pollyanna) for you lawyers out there: Would either (or both) Chi O and the university have some liability in their rush to judgment/action if the girl blamed was somehow cleared?
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08-18-2014, 10:46 PM
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Really? Someone posts a hateful racist slur on Snapchat and the first instinct amongst GC'ers is to defend the poster?
Sigh.
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08-18-2014, 10:50 PM
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Really? Someone posts a hateful racist slur on Snapchat and the first instinct amongst GC'ers is to defend the poster?
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I didn't.
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08-18-2014, 10:52 PM
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Really? Someone posts a hateful racist slur on Snapchat and the first instinct amongst GC'ers is to defend the poster?
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Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa
I didn't.
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Me, either.
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08-18-2014, 10:58 PM
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I think earlier in this very thread, someone posted about a PNM (who was not up to snuff) and was dropped ... and referred to that incident as a bullet dodged (or something like that).
Sometimes, when you discover an unwanted bullet, you just need to empty the chamber, i.e., pull the pin.
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08-18-2014, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Really? Someone posts a hateful racist slur on Snapchat and the first instinct amongst GC'ers is to defend the poster?
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My first reaction was disgust.
My second reaction was disbelief that any active would be so stupid and hateful. Really, it doesn't make sense. If you recall the disaster last year, it was not the actives who were to blame.
My thought given (yet to be confirmed) possible additional facts is that I hope a thorough investigation was conducted prior to "swift discipline" and a rush to PR CYA.
And it is remarkable that both Chi O and the university were able to accomplish this in a day. A Sunday.
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08-18-2014, 11:26 PM
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[QUOTE=Hartofsec;2286480]My first reaction was disgust.
If you recall the disaster last year, it was not the actives who were to blame.
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You are wrong. I personally know one of the young ladies who spilled the beans. I made her the hand-sewn smocked daygown her mother brought her home from the hospital in.
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08-18-2014, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Really? Someone posts a hateful racist slur on Snapchat and the first instinct amongst GC'ers is to defend the poster?
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Right, because anyone who is even accused of racism should be presumed guilty and immediately shunned. Whatever - your little signatures there are racist and sexist so you and the Chi Os can just cancel each other out.
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08-18-2014, 11:33 PM
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My instinct is that it isn't true. I haven't read through all of the "proof" or "disproof" stories because I wouldn't buy any of it anyway. It just doesn't seem plausible. If it would be determined that some stupid dingdong actually did say/post anything like this, then as far as I'm concerned it starts with removal of her pin and since the school probably has standards against this type of behavior, also getting kicked out of school.
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08-18-2014, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteRose1912
I think they got rid of it a couple years ago.
Edit: IP's list still says they set their own quotas, though, so that might just have been wishful thinking on my part. Still, even with chapter-set quotas, the "rule" could be in place. Anyone know?
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Nebraska now uses tandard RFM and has been for a few years.
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08-18-2014, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa
You are wrong. I personally know one of the young ladies who spilled the beans. I made her the hand-sewn smocked daygown her mother brought her home from the hospital in.
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Well, I can't trump a hand-sewn smocked daygown.
So a Chi O active told you all about their membership selection? I'm assuming from your username that you weren't present.
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08-19-2014, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hartofsec
Well, I can't trump a hand-sewn smocked daygown.
So a Chi O active told you all about their membership selection? I'm assuming from your username that you weren't present.
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I've been here in Oxpatch enjoying my summer off and canning tomatoes for all of the last month ... so, no, I haven't spoken to any UA Chi Os.
The young lady I mentioned was one of the bean spillers from last year ... and last year, it was NOT all about the alums, however you might want to believe that.
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08-19-2014, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa
The young lady I mentioned was one of the bean spillers from last year ... and last year, it was NOT all about the alums, however you might want to believe that.
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I'm just trying to find out how you claim to know that. The bean-spiller you smocked a daygown for who shared last year's membership selection with you was a Chi O at U of A?
Or a Kappa? Were you present for membership selection?
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