Happily hazed?

[DrPhil]

Your student is a big mouthed snitch. People like this are one reason why some NPHC chapters stopped doing anything that can be misconstrued as "pledging" and, to the extreme, hazing.

You shouldn't do anything and I don't know why you would want to do anything. Your big mouthed snitch student's chapter is finding a way to teach what needs to be taught. You simply assumed the worst based on NPC (and GC) standards. Another reason your big mouthed snitch student should've never confided in an outsider.

I wish this thread was not created and could be strongly edited or deleted:
(1) It is based on non-NPHC assumptions and standards
(2) Based on this information it isn't difficult to identify this NPHC sorority's collegiate chapter and alumnae chapter
(3) You can get a collegiate chapter, alumnae chapter, and student (who, regardless of anything the student has told you, has an unknown membership status) in trouble for NO REASON

tldr: Mind your own business and edit your posts.

/No disrespect to WhiteRose1912

[StealthMode]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Your big mouthed snitch student's chapter is finding a way to teach what needs to be taught.

To be fair, Soror, we don't know that the situation is as innocuous and simple as this. However, I agree the fact that we know ANYTHING is concerning.

That being said, I agree with amiblue. If you are not absolutely certain that S is implying they will be undergoing activities that could lead to serious injury, then leave it be. The term "hazing" has a horribly negative connotation but, by its strict definition, it includes a lot of innocent activities. Unless you have concrete reason to suspect harm will come to these girls, the decision to investigate or sanction a chapter lies with the org and is honestly no one else's business.

Lastly, this has to be said: Strolls, chants, and songs are fun but have nothing to do with making a good lifetime member. If S thinks learning how to stroll (and similar activities) makes for a "more acceptable" process, she needs to ask herself why she's there.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by StealthMode

To be fair, Soror, we don't know that the situation is as innocuous and simple as this.

Which is why this should be handled without Greekchat and WhiteRose's intervention.

I agree the fact we know ANYTHING is concerning.

[StealthMode]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Which is why this should be handled without Greekchat and WhiteRose's intervention.

Touché.

[WhiteRose1912]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

/No disrespect to WhiteRose1912

My campus has had a couple violent hazing issues in my time as an undergrad, and I don't want to see the same thing happen to S. The conversation set off some alarm bells. BUT, like I said, I'm aware that this is a different culture--which is why I asked for some advice from uninvolved NPHCers. If I really think about it, I do not feel like S is in danger. I will happily go back to MMOB and I will trim down my posts.

Thanks guys!

[DrPhil]

(((Hugs, WhiteRose1912)))

You are a wonderful person and were well-intentioned. Thanks!!

Oh and that cat is creepy. LOL.

I am not saying to completely turn a blind eye. I am saying to err on the side of caution when a student has diarrhea of the mouth (which college students tend to have when talking TO and ABOUT faculty and staff) and you aren't quite sure of the "goings on". Sometimes it can suffice to keep some contact with students and remind students to be safe and seek help (not necessarily from you) if something happens that the student finds too compromising (that is extremely subjective and doesn't automatically constitute "pledging" and hazing). The student (and GLO) will have to figure it out from there.