Universities Under Investigation Re: Handling Sexual Assault

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honorgal

I don't know how many more times I can say it. We have a problem with rape on college campuses but it's not a crisis. The extent and nature of the problem is being exaggerated. The preferred "solutions" being called for by those who are erroneously exaggerating the problem into a crisis aren't going to do much good and are going to do a lot of harm. Therefore, I oppose the solutions being called for, and because I think the objective truth matters, I also oppose the use of exaggeration as a way to compel action.

Thanks. That point is coming through. It's when you go beyond that that I, at least, am having trouble figuring out exactly what you mean. I still, for example, haven't figured out what point you were trying to make about gender differences and biology.

Originally Posted by AGDee

Is due process required outside of the legal system? It isn't with employment. It isn't in public K-12 school systems.

It can be required in the public K-12 school system. Generally speaking, due process is required when the government, which includes public institutions like school systems and universities, seeks to deprive anyone of a liberty or property interest.

The thing is due process is not a monolithic, one size fits all thing. Whether due process is required can vary by situation and context, and can turn on what liberty or property is at stake (assuming one is). What process due process actually requires can also vary by situation and context.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Thanks. That point is coming through. It's when you go beyond that that I, at least, am having trouble figuring out exactly what you mean. I still, for example, haven't figured out what point you were trying to make about gender differences and biology.
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My point is that there are gender and biology differences, and these problems we are seeing on college campuses of difficult/impossible to fairly adjudicate accusations of rape are the unintended consequences of a concerted effort to deny those differences exist. And it's ironic that the radicals seem to be doubling down on their hypocrisy. See the absurd recent kurfuffle about trigger warnings.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

My point is that there are gender and biology differences, and these problems we are seeing on college campuses of difficult/impossible to fairly adjudicate accusations of rape are the unintended consequences of a concerted effort to deny those differences exist. And it's ironic that the radicals seem to be doubling down on their hypocrisy. See the absurd recent kurfuffle about trigger warnings.

Originally Posted by honorgal

Biological and evolutionary differences in sex drive/sexual motivations. I think they are quite relevant.

Either honorgal is pulling our leg or it took pages for honorgal to admit to meaning exactly what I knew honorgal meant. Yawn.