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Old 03-21-2014, 11:00 PM
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Quilting. Haven't been at it long but am totally addicted.
That's a good hobby....my wife does that also, she took all my old rush shirts and shirts from parties and fraternity related and made a nice quilt with it.
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Is it sad that the only reason I know it is because of Sheldon Cooper's Fun with Flags?
And vexillology is mentioned in a New York Times story today on a possible new flag for New Zealand: Maybe One Less Union Jack.
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While some critics are dubious about using a sports symbol [a silver fern on a black field is a popular alternative suggestion to the current flag, the silver fern being a national symbol used by national sports teams]—arguing that a country needs a flag, not a logo—The Herald was on the mark when it urged Mr. Key in an editorial to go bold and not leave momentous aesthetic decisions in the hands of a committee of politicians. “The selection of a design to be put before the public should not made by senior ministers,” the editorial said. “It should be entrusted to a panel of vexillologists, artists and designers.” That makes sense. For practitioners of vexillology — the study of flags — an opportunity like this does not come often, and they are surely eager to make the most of it.
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Stuffed eggs, though...!
You need to check out the new Food Network Magazine. It has 50 deviled egg recipes. I really want to try the beef and horseradish one.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:19 PM
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And vexillology is mentioned in a New York Times story today on a possible new flag for New Zealand: Maybe One Less Union Jack.

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and the silver fern flag:



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You need to check out the new Food Network Magazine. It has 50 deviled egg recipes. I really want to try the beef and horseradish one.
I usually put horseradish in mine - I'll have to check out the addition of beef, too! Is your daughter still making them?
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:25 PM
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I usually put horseradish in mine - I'll have to check out the addition of beef, too! Is your daughter still making them?
She hasn't in awhile. I think she "overdosed" on them, so she hasn't been wanting any.
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[QUOTE=MysticCat;2266579]And vexillology is mentioned in a New York Times story today on a possible new flag for New Zealand: Maybe One Less Union Jack.

For reference, the current New Zealand flag,

and the silver fern flag.

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Anybody take Latin in school? The vexilla or vexalla was the cloth standard of the Roman Legions. Each legion had a vexilla and an Eagle surmounting the initials S.P.Q.R. Each Cohort (roughly a battalion sized unit usually part of a legion but sometimes operating indepentently) had a Maniple, a bronze hand with other insigniae to identify the unit. Any body remember what S.P.Q.R. stood for? How about a Maniple - why a bronze hand?
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Different comment: Why get rid of the "Union Jack" in the NZ flag? Since Her Majesty is still Queen of New Zeeland it seems odd that the visual link to the soverign would be eliminated.
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Any body remember what S.P.Q.R. stood for?
Senatus Populusque Romanus—The Senate and People of Rome.

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Different comment: Why get rid of the "Union Jack" in the NZ flag? Since Her Majesty is still Queen of New Zeeland it seems odd that the visual link to the soverign would be eliminated.
Ask Canada why they did it 50 years ago.

As for New Zealanders, three main reasons: The current flag looks too colonial, it looks too much like the flags of too many other Commonwealth countries, especially Australia, and it's too British to represent such a diverse country.

The real question is what happens to the Union flag if Scotland votes to leave the Union.
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Senatus Populusque Romanus—The Senate and People of Rome.

Ask Canada why they did it 50 years ago.

As for New Zealanders, three main reasons: The current flag looks too colonial, it looks too much like the flags of too many other Commonwealth countries, especially Australia, and it's too British to represent such a diverse country.

The real question is what happens to the Union flag if Scotland votes to leave the Union.

SPQR - Mark one up for you! You nailed it (although I expected you would)!

Canada - HM is also Queen of Canada. Last demographic breakdown of Canada that I saw showed it to be not all that diverse. Native Canadians are far fewer than Native Americans and the two largest groups are British and French with several other relatively tiny minority groups. I think a key point is that HM is not the Queen of England here, she is Queen of Canada.

Australia - I grant you that Australia is far more diverse than I realized until about five years ago. Seems that since WWII Australia has really developed a diverse population. Still, HM is Queen of Australia directly. Couple of years back they held a plebecite and a strong majority of Australians voted to retain the Monarchy with HM as Queen.

New Zeeland - Again, the demographic breakdown is far less diverse than Australia. Native Maoris are few in number and Brits are the dominant majority. HM is Queen of New Zeeland directly as well.

My take is that if Her Britannic Majesty is Queen then the Union portion of the flag ought to be retained. Do whatever with the rest of the flag but keep the union portion intact.

As to Scotland, they would probably just remove the Cross of St Andrew and revert to the flag in use before the Act of Union. Incidentally, HM is Queen of Scotland although in Scotland she is Elizabeth I not Elizabeth II. Elizabeth I of England was never Queen of Scotland.

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