Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Was a weather delay really completely out of the realm of consideration? This is INDIANA, the upper Midwest, in January.

And no offense to IU grads and fans, but why is it so much more important for you to cut for grades than every other NPC system? Too many PNMs? Talk to your friends at Alabama.

As for not wanting a system where members can't live in house the entire time, we don't always get what we want. Ask the hundreds of PNMs who don't have a chance to live in EVER because they are denied membership. Every other housed NPC system makes this work. You will adjust.

Generally I am a proponent of self-governance, but IU is out of control.

Great post IP! Yet I am going a step further here. As an IU alumna amd a former recruitment supervisor on amother campus, I saw first hand how crazy the IU process can be. I wish it was different, but as I said earlier it is up to the collegiate panhel to vote in any changes.

You have to remember that the women voting are 19-22 year old survivors of these Greek Hunger Games. Since we've been using the analogy and author Suzanne Collins is an IU alumna (not Greek) I am going to roll with it. These women don't IU as being dysfunctional because it's all they know. Just like all the district residents, they didn't know anything differrnt.

Now these Greek Humger Games survivors have advisors. But unless Haymitch stands up and gives better advice to the tributes, we are at a stalemate. If the Haymitches from the various districts don't educate and train their own, these women won't see why cjange might be good. How many of the orgs are going to stand up for change...when will the idea of change catch fire?

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Great post IP! Yet I am going a step further here. As an IU alumna amd a former recruitment supervisor on amother campus, I saw first hand how crazy the IU process can be. I wish it was different, but as I said earlier it is up to the collegiate panhel to vote in any changes.

You have to remember that the women voting are 19-22 year old survivors of these Greek Hunger Games. Since we've been using the analogy and author Suzanne Collins is an IU alumna (not Greek) I am going to roll with it. These women don't IU as being dysfunctional because it's all they know. Just like all the district residents, they didn't know anything differrnt.

Now these Greek Humger Games survivors have advisors. But unless Haymitch stands up and gives better advice to the tributes, we are at a stalemate. If the Haymitches from the various districts don't educate and train their own, these women won't see why cjange might be good. How many of the orgs are going to stand up for change...when will the idea of change catch fire?

Here here, my SK sista! I am raising my two fingers in the air in solidarity with you....but I can't be a Haymitch since I don't advise at IU.

[33girl]

Same (pretty much) poo, different year.

The IU bed quota system is NOT going to change until the administration forces it to do so (ice skating Satan before that happens) or until NPC groups pull their chapters from the campus in protest of the way rush is run (again, ice skating Satan before that happens).

Any group that does things differently on a campus is going to run up against issues in rush. We had rush issues because we were the only group who did not have a mixer with a fraternity on bid night, we had a party to whom we could invite our friends and boyfriends instead. Something as inconsequential and silly as that probably caused some women to rank us lower or cut us altogether. Something that is FOUR HOURS LONG out of an entire college career. But when you're 18-19 those things matter. So if we had that issue, can you imagine how women look at unhoused chapters on a campus where everything revolves around being housed? To say "you can have real sisterhood without a house" is missing the point.

And finally, if they couldn't make 20-12-8-3 work with a shortened schedule...then POSTPONE rush. Postpone it to freaking March if needed. Everyone has 6 week pledge programs and it's not like a Washington State (I think they're the ones) situation where pledges move immediately into the house. Better to wait than to probably end up with the most anti-Greek group of disappointed rushees ever. I can't imagine that the women who had their rushes go as they wanted were anyone but people the sororities knew to begin with.

ETAsk: Was it solely Panhellenic's call to cut a day from rush and not reschedule or were they basically forced into that by the administration saying "rush happens this week or never"? Sorry if the answer is somewhere in this thread.