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Old 02-10-2013, 10:29 AM
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I don't see it being just about eating disorders. It has to do with societal values. And I don't want to go into a huge rant, but it irks me to no end that women are always first judged by appearance, then by who they are. Even at the inauguration, there was so much talk about what the FLOTUS and her daughters were WEARING. Which designer made their coats?? Who cares??? I really like and admire Michelle Obama but I'd like and admire her if she didn't have great arms and if she didn't dress sharply. I like and admire her because she's a very intelligent, warm and seemingly compassionate woman. Anybody know who designed the suit the President wore? NO. Anybody pay any males attention on the red carpet?? NO. And we do it to ourselves too. We are incredibly judgmental of each other.
I know what suit POTUS wore! It was Brooks Brothers--just like almost every other President since BB was founded.

While I do agree that women are judged first by appearance, and it can be very problematic, in the cases you mentioned, it's more finance-based. There's a LOT of money to be made in women's fashion--apparently the sales of the J.Crew and Kate Spade coats Sasha and Malia wore skyrocketed. Even a relatively inexpensive dress from Zara sold like hotcakes once Kate Middleton wore it. I think that the emphasis on women's fashion is more marketing than anything else. Women will buy something if they like it on a public figure...men, not as much.

Back to the OP--the writer was, in my opinion, overreacting. Let's face it--triggers are everywhere for everybody. Part of recovery, whether it's from an ED, mental illness, or even a death in the family, is becoming resilient to MOST triggers. It seems like the author of the post may have a long way to go.

Also, I didn't even know women's only hours were a thing at college gyms. Is it to protect ED patients, or for Muslim or married Orthodox Jewish women who can't have their hair uncovered when men are around?
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:43 AM
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I know what suit POTUS wore! It was Brooks Brothers--just like almost every other President since BB was founded.

While I do agree that women are judged first by appearance, and it can be very problematic, in the cases you mentioned, it's more finance-based. There's a LOT of money to be made in women's fashion--apparently the sales of the J.Crew and Kate Spade coats Sasha and Malia wore skyrocketed. Even a relatively inexpensive dress from Zara sold like hotcakes once Kate Middleton wore it. I think that the emphasis on women's fashion is more marketing than anything else. Women will buy something if they like it on a public figure...men, not as much.

Back to the OP--the writer was, in my opinion, overreacting. Let's face it--triggers are everywhere for everybody. Part of recovery, whether it's from an ED, mental illness, or even a death in the family, is becoming resilient to MOST triggers. It seems like the author of the post may have a long way to go.

Also, I didn't even know women's only hours were a thing at college gyms. Is it to protect ED patients, or for Muslim or married Orthodox Jewish women who can't have their hair uncovered when men are around?
I absolutely agree. This poor woman apparently is still suffering greatly from her disorder, as she recounted in the article. She still counts calories religiously and is very sensitive to these stimuli. I hope she is still receiving treatment so that she can withstand the multitude of triggers that bombard modern women in our daily lives. Speaking out about the t-shirt may be a good sign for her, though, rather than internalizing those feelings and hurting herself with more poor eating behaviors. It's a continuum. Maybe her next step will be to let it go.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:29 PM
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Also, I didn't even know women's only hours were a thing at college gyms. Is it to protect ED patients, or for Muslim or married Orthodox Jewish women who can't have their hair uncovered when men are around?
The bolded would make more sense. I can't imagine having to work out with your head covered. Sweat city!!!
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:27 AM
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The bolded would make more sense. I can't imagine having to work out with your head covered. Sweat city!!!
There are also general modesty issues to keep in mind as well.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:11 AM
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Also, I didn't even know women's only hours were a thing at college gyms. Is it to protect ED patients, or for Muslim or married Orthodox Jewish women who can't have their hair uncovered when men are around?
Some women are just more comfortable working out without men around for a variety of reasons. The gym can be a hotbed for "street harassment"--it's like getting catcalled when you walk around or take public transit, but there is no escape route if you are mid-workout. Even if it's not so aggressive, the success of places like Curves shows us that self-consciousness is a serious problem in encouraging women to work out.

Whether or not it's the place of a university to accommodate these women is an open question in my mind, but certainly the demand is there.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:21 PM
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Also, I didn't even know women's only hours were a thing at college gyms. Is it to protect ED patients, or for Muslim or married Orthodox Jewish women who can't have their hair uncovered when men are around?
What's ED here? Erectile Dysfunction???
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