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Old 02-07-2013, 10:02 PM
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if it's stereotypical, then it's mocking.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:24 PM
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if it's stereotypical, then it's mocking.
Not necessarily.

If I dress up like Frau Antje I'm dressed up in a stereotypical form. But I'm not mocking anything or anyone. If I wear a sari I'm dressed in something considered stereotypical of the Indian culture, but it's not worn to mock, but because I like how it looks. If I wear a dress inspired by a traditional Chinese dress (like the ones that were quite fashionable in the 90s) again, it's something considered stereotypical, but not mocking. My point is, the thought behind it, and the behavior accompanying it is what decides if it's mocking.

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:28 PM
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the thought behind it, and the behavior accompanying it is what decides if it's mocking.
and the intent of the thought behind the party was to mock. and your examples are not really applicable or even comparable to this situation. wearing something you like that happens to be from another culture isn't the same thing as wearing something from another culture to mock said other culture.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:40 PM
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and the intent of the thought behind the party was to mock. and your examples are not really applicable or even comparable to this situation. wearing something you like that happens to be from another culture isn't the same thing as wearing something from another culture to mock said other culture.
I disagree with you. I think the intent behind the email is to mock and to ridicule.
I don't think the intent of everyone attending was to mock and ridicule. But I get that you don't want to see my point.

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:46 PM
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I disagree with you. I think the intent behind the email is to mock and to ridicule.
I don't think the intent of everyone attending was to mock and ridicule. But I get that you don't want to see my point.
i don't care if you agree or not. i see your point, and your point is silly and not applicable to the situation at hand. i didn't say the intent of everyone at the party was the mock and ridicule, i said the intent of the party itself was to mock and ridicule. some party goers may have not even took part in the dressing up. but the ones who did, did with the intent to mock and ridicule.

unless you think that they dressed up as a caricature to celebrate asian month or something like that.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:55 PM
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i don't care if you agree or not. i see your point, and your point is silly and not applicable to the situation at hand. i didn't say the intent of everyone at the party was the mock and ridicule, i said the intent of the party itself was to mock and ridicule. some party goers may have not even took part in the dressing up. but the ones who did, did with the intent to mock and ridicule.

unless you think that they dressed up as a caricature to celebrate asian month or something like that.
Taking my comments out of context and ridiculing them is not helping the conversation. But you got what you wanted. I'm out, because if having an open conversation on a subject as this makes you want to call someone on the internet who you haven't met and who's background you don't know, silly and not socially conscious this tells me that you're not interested in anyone else's opinion.

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Old 02-07-2013, 11:01 PM
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Taking my comments out of context and ridiculing them is not helping the conversation. But you got what you wanted. I'm out, because if having an open conversation on a subject as this makes you want to call someone on the internet who you haven't met and who's background you don't know (of Asian descent FYI) silly and not socially conscious this tells me that you're not interested in anyone else's opinion.
i didn't call you silly. i called your opinion silly and inapplicable. but IMO, from your posts that you're not socially conscious. you're making excuses and deflecting for a group of predominantly white men and women to run around dressing up as geishas and sumo wrestlers and saying things like herro as if somehow that's a cool thing to do.

but yay, asian month. too bad we're three months early. they should have done it in may for more effect. i wonder if the local asian american association was cool with it. wait, they weren't.
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