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Old 12-30-2012, 11:39 PM
BAckbOwlsgIrl BAckbOwlsgIrl is offline
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I'm also unsure if serenades for social events still exist in a lot of places. They've been eliminated by my alma mater, but basically, women would dress in slutty clothing and go sing to the fraternities in hopes of getting on their social calendar. The men would respond by coming over and singing as well, but the obvious objectification only went on direction.
Totally resenting that comment.

Not sure what you school you went to nor where you got notion of "slutty clothing" for serenades, but, I have never heard of any such a thing. We serenaded fraternities. It was fun. And even in the god awful heat and humidity, we NEVER wore "slutty clothing." Never once did I feel objectified. We laughed, they laughed. What we supposed to wear burqas? After pledging in the summer's heat and monsoons, it is hot!

The women that I serenaded with are now members of prestigious neonatal clinics, lawyers, mothers, world travelers, decorated district teachers, professionals and more.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:29 PM
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Totally resenting that comment.

Not sure what you school you went to nor where you got notion of "slutty clothing" for serenades, but, I have never heard of any such a thing. We serenaded fraternities. It was fun. And even in the god awful heat and humidity, we NEVER wore "slutty clothing." Never once did I feel objectified. We laughed, they laughed. What we supposed to wear burqas? After pledging in the summer's heat and monsoons, it is hot!

The women that I serenaded with are now members of prestigious neonatal clinics, lawyers, mothers, world travelers, decorated district teachers, professionals and more.
At our school, serenading is not allowed and that rule is also not followed. Many of the sororities go to the fraternities to present their philanthropies (normal) but unfortunately some serenade their philanthropy with sexual lyrics to promote it. My friend practiced the song in front of me and I told her not to go because I found it so offensive, but at the time she was a new member and was worried she would get kicked out over not doing the song. Another friend from a nearby school had to go from fraternity to fraternity with her pledge class and dance for them. The fraternity members would "rate" how hot they each were. Both of these incidents happened 2 years ago. This case was hazing, not allowed at any school.

I understand that many sororities do not engage in these behaviors. However, it begs the question then if people say "those examples are not representative of the Greek system" that then the great examples of sororities and fraternities could be argued to not be representative either?

I personally believe that, unfortunately, one cannot argue that "sororities" in general help or hurt feminism. I think that the founding principles of most sororities promote feminism and that chapters that follow them also promote feminism. I believe that there are chapters that deviate from the national founding principles and those transgressions are not obvious or significant enough to lead to being shut down. These deviant chapters hurt feminism if their new members feel that they need to be objectified to be accepted and continue to promote that past their initiation, as in the case I stated before. It only takes a few minutes at a national convention, or even regional one, to realize that individual chapters vary from each other and that inevitable some of those deviations will be quite different from their founding principles all together. Therefore, I think that women will find sororities to be feminist dependent on the individual chapter they join or know members from.

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