sorority advice needed

[amIblue?]

No popcorn, but I have a nice bottle of wine.

[HQWest]

Ooh I have Caramel Corn

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

No popcorn, but I have a nice bottle of wine.

I'm coming to your house!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Wow, ADPhi hasn't been around for years!

Actually, they are still around and have something that no one in Junior League or any NPC group will ever, ever have. That something is.....





...........






PENISES!!!

http://www.alphadeltaphi.org/

(The chapters of ADPhi that broke away and became co-ed are Alpha Delta Phi Society, a separate organization.)

I'm guessing an "h" snuck in where it shouldn't have and she meant ADPi.

And since I apparently offended Junior League by suggesting they might not take anyone that wants in, I will say that competitiveness can occur in ANY organization. Chamber of Commerce, Jaycees, hospital auxiliary, PTA, you name it - and yes I am talking about organizations for ADULTS.

I'm wondering how Hartofsec knows that Old_Row is still in school...or thinks it knows that. (I'm not even assuming anymore that anyone is male or female.)

Oh and incidentally for the oh so charming poster who quotes me like it's your job, I didn't say that joining the nontrad students group would be a substitute for being in a sorority.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvTwv5o1Qs

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Oh my - is this going to be another thread shut down because of HartofSec and OR? How many would that be for Hart?

Who's got the popcorn????

No shit. I'm starting to think she has no friends since she can't have a conversation without going for the jugular.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

No, I never made any such claim. I never claimed anything outside of my personal experience.

Did you?

Are there disappointed forum members here who have been turned away from JL?

misscherrypie received an invite from JL. I'm sure there are others.


ETA: Yep, in fact there is even a thread entitled "AOIIs and The Junior League."

I think you may be perpetuating negative stereotypes about an organization with which you have no experience.

Sound familiar? It kinda jumps up and down on my irony button.

I think you must have learned the word irony from Alanis Morissette because I don't think you know what it means. Thanks for bringing up a completely unrelated thread. OMG. There are AOIIs that are Junior Leaguers. Who'd have thought? Where did I say there was anything wrong with the JL? You have a little something wrong with reading comprehension or else get overwhelmingly defensive when someone says anything remotely negative about JL. No, I have never tried to join the JL. Relaying my sister's experience isn't spreading negative propaganda, it is illustrating the point that JL is not always completely open to everyone. My sister loved JL when she was in Seattle. Not so much when she moved home. I know exact details including chapters, and I didn't have to experience it myself to know it's true. She's not some cousin of some friend's roommate. Regardless, your fall back defense that sorority chapters don't always accept sisters that transfer is unrelated and a distraction from the original topic. We are discussing whether or not the OP would be turned down. Whether or not a chapter of a sorority would refuse her if she transferred is moot since she has not been given a bid in the first place.

As an aside, you might notice that you get an overwhelmingly negative reaction on GC. It's because of your persistent aggressive manner. When you respond, try to take a deep breath and realize people are not attacking you and everything you hold dear before responding. Every post you make sounds like a mean attempt to put someone in their place. Definitely not a way to make friends or influence people.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And since I apparently offended Junior League by suggesting they might not take anyone that wants in, I will say that competitiveness can occur in ANY organization. Chamber of Commerce, Jaycees, hospital auxiliary, PTA, you name it - and yes I am talking about organizations for ADULTS.

Oh and incidentally for the oh so charming poster who quotes me like it's your job, I didn't say that joining the nontrad students group would be a substitute for being in a sorority.

Oh my Jesus, yes, regarding the competitiveness of ANY organization.

If there's a job quoting you, I would like to apply. Vastly more interesting than my current employment.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No shit. I'm starting to think she has no friends since she can't have a conversation without going for the jugular.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

As an aside, you might notice that you get an overwhelmingly negative reaction on GC. It's because of your persistent aggressive manner. When you respond, try to take a deep breath and realize people are not attacking you and everything you hold dear before responding. Every post you make sounds like a mean attempt to put someone in their place. Definitely not a way to make friends or influence people.

Don't understand what it is about Hart + damn near everyone else here on GC, but my God, how exhausting it must be to be offended by EVERYTHING one reads on the internet and to have the compulsion to aggressively DEFEND everything that hurts one's feelings.

All that being said, we were due for this. Love y'all!

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And since I apparently offended Junior League by suggesting they might not take anyone that wants in, I will say that competitiveness can occur in ANY organization. Chamber of Commerce, Jaycees, hospital auxiliary, PTA, you name it - and yes I am talking about organizations for ADULTS.

That isn't at all what you suggested, this is what you stated:

Originally Posted by 33girl

And OR is so right about the Junior League being just as, if not more competitive than a sorority in some places. That's why I kind of inwardly chortle when people suggest it (i.e. if you thought sorority rush was full of rejectment, you ain't seen NOTHING yet).

It appears that the assumptions were your own. Your comments (made with AUTHORITY) were based on nothing more than a negative stereotype -- the same sort of "tent talk" that is discouraged here.

Originally Posted by 33girl

I'm wondering how Hartofsec knows that Old_Row is still in school...or thinks it knows that.

She has admonished me for being her mother's age (a woman of my "advanced age" lol). She said she was in school upthread.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

As an aside, you might notice that you get an overwhelmingly negative reaction on GC. It's because of your persistent aggressive manner. When you respond, try to take a deep breath and realize people are not attacking you and everything you hold dear before responding. Every post you make sounds like a mean attempt to put someone in their place. Definitely not a way to make friends or influence people.

I agree that I do get an overwhelmingly negative reaction from the same clique of dominant forum personalities. Some of you feel free to challenge and respond however you wish to others (sans the deep breath), veer off-topic, and pile-on, but react dramatically if challenged yourselves.

I'm really not that bothered if someone disagrees with me. It's a discussion forum.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No shit. I'm starting to think she has no friends since she can't have a conversation without going for the jugular.

This seems overly dramatic -- where, exactly, did I go "for the jugular" on this thread? Your characterization of "every post" I make seems a lil exaggerated too.

I just don't see a skirmish worthy of popcorn on this thread.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I agree that I do get an overwhelmingly negative reaction from the same clique of dominant forum personalities. Some of you feel free to challenge and respond however you wish to others (sans the deep breath), veer off-topic, and pile-on, but react dramatically if challenged yourselves.

I'm really not that bothered if someone disagrees with me. It's a discussion forum.

I'll let you in on something. There is no clique. I'm not friends with 33girl or Old Row or Titchou, but when you start making aggressive, ridiculously unnecessary statements I stand up for other posters no matter who they are. Before you came around, I couldn't remember a time I actually agreed with some of these people.

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

This seems overly dramatic -- where, exactly, did I go "for the jugular" on this thread? Your characterization of "every post" I make seems a lil exaggerated too.

I just don't see a skirmish worthy of popcorn on this thread.

You go for the jugular when you go digging for unrelated threads to pull in my sorority affiliation into the argument. What exactly does that have to do with anything other than to inflame the situation? You dial it up to 11 on every single thread you jump into by bringing people's organizations into the discussion in an offensive manner. You may not see it, but every other member of GC does, and no other single member has been the source of more closed threads than you. That's not a record you should be proud to own, btw.

The way you could have handled this discussion on JL is to discuss YOUR experience in JL rather than discount others stories as simply negative propaganda. Just as in Greek Life, negative stories are often well deserved. You and the Junior League would have been better served by this discussion than the defensive ugliness that we just saw. THAT'S how GC is supposed to work.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'll let you in on something. There is no clique. I'm not friends with 33girl or Old Row or Titchou, but when you start making aggressive, ridiculously unnecessary statements I stand up for other posters no matter who they are. Before you came around, I couldn't remember a time I actually agreed with some of these people.

Ain't this the truth! I'm not sure AOII Angel and I ever had a civil word for each other until Hart came along. So when I received a PM from her, I was a little slow to open it. But what a sweet message it was offering Panhellenic support in light of Hart's comments about my chapter of initiation. I have much more respect for her now and make an effort to see things from her point of view more than I did in the past. So, if anything good has come out of all this, that's at least one. Thanks, AOII Angel. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!

[pbear19]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

That isn't at all what you suggested, this is what you stated:

Actually, what 33girl said is true. READ what she said. She said that it is competitive in SOME PLACES. Not everywhere. Some places. That is perfectly true. And yes, I can say that with some authority, since I have been a dues-paying member of 3 different AJLI-affiliated Leagues in 3 different parts of the country since 2002, including being a delegate to an ODI where I met women from countless other Leagues and learned about their processes. There are some Leagues that are extremely competitive. It may not be the norm anymore, but that doesn't make 33girl's statement anything less than absolutely true.

(And I am quite certain I am not in any kind of clique on GC.)

[amIblue?]

Any time you end up with 33girl and Titchou coming down on the same side of an issue, whatever that issue may be, it's as rare and as brief as a solar eclipse.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Any time you end up with 33girl and Titchou coming down on the same side of an issue, whatever that issue may be, it's as rare and as brief as a solar eclipse.

True! The sky must be falling!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Ain't this the truth! I'm not sure AOII Angel and I ever had a civil word for each other until Hart came along. So when I received a PM from her, I was a little slow to open it. But what a sweet message it was offering Panhellenic support in light of Hart's comments about my chapter of initiation. I have much more respect for her now and make an effort to see things from her point of view more than I did in the past. So, if anything good has come out of all this, that's at least one. Thanks, AOII Angel. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!

I feel the same way, Titchou, and a Happy Thanksgiving to you, too!

ETA:

I really loved learning the history behind your name. I've always wondered why Cajuns named their kids things like T Bob and T June. Now I know.