sorority advice needed

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I agree that I do get an overwhelmingly negative reaction from the same clique of dominant forum personalities. Some of you feel free to challenge and respond however you wish to others (sans the deep breath), veer off-topic, and pile-on, but react dramatically if challenged yourselves.

I'm really not that bothered if someone disagrees with me. It's a discussion forum.

I'll let you in on something. There is no clique. I'm not friends with 33girl or Old Row or Titchou, but when you start making aggressive, ridiculously unnecessary statements I stand up for other posters no matter who they are. Before you came around, I couldn't remember a time I actually agreed with some of these people.

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

This seems overly dramatic -- where, exactly, did I go "for the jugular" on this thread? Your characterization of "every post" I make seems a lil exaggerated too.

I just don't see a skirmish worthy of popcorn on this thread.

You go for the jugular when you go digging for unrelated threads to pull in my sorority affiliation into the argument. What exactly does that have to do with anything other than to inflame the situation? You dial it up to 11 on every single thread you jump into by bringing people's organizations into the discussion in an offensive manner. You may not see it, but every other member of GC does, and no other single member has been the source of more closed threads than you. That's not a record you should be proud to own, btw.

The way you could have handled this discussion on JL is to discuss YOUR experience in JL rather than discount others stories as simply negative propaganda. Just as in Greek Life, negative stories are often well deserved. You and the Junior League would have been better served by this discussion than the defensive ugliness that we just saw. THAT'S how GC is supposed to work.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'll let you in on something. There is no clique. I'm not friends with 33girl or Old Row or Titchou, but when you start making aggressive, ridiculously unnecessary statements I stand up for other posters no matter who they are. Before you came around, I couldn't remember a time I actually agreed with some of these people.

Ain't this the truth! I'm not sure AOII Angel and I ever had a civil word for each other until Hart came along. So when I received a PM from her, I was a little slow to open it. But what a sweet message it was offering Panhellenic support in light of Hart's comments about my chapter of initiation. I have much more respect for her now and make an effort to see things from her point of view more than I did in the past. So, if anything good has come out of all this, that's at least one. Thanks, AOII Angel. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Ain't this the truth! I'm not sure AOII Angel and I ever had a civil word for each other until Hart came along. So when I received a PM from her, I was a little slow to open it. But what a sweet message it was offering Panhellenic support in light of Hart's comments about my chapter of initiation. I have much more respect for her now and make an effort to see things from her point of view more than I did in the past. So, if anything good has come out of all this, that's at least one. Thanks, AOII Angel. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!

I feel the same way, Titchou, and a Happy Thanksgiving to you, too!

ETA:

I really loved learning the history behind your name. I've always wondered why Cajuns named their kids things like T Bob and T June. Now I know.

[Old_Row]

I never admonished it for its age. I admonished it for behaving the way it does at its advanced age. I think you are supposed to be more mature at some point and I keep trying to picture my momma doing the things it does. I just can't imagine it in real life.

I do know the real definition of irony too. Like when it admonished me for having my user name because it makes it think I am elitist after it spent all its time focused on being mean and negative about Ms. Titchou's chapter. I think that is being a hypocritical bully.

I hope everyone has a wonderful turkey day that is filled with yumminess and love!

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Ain't this the truth! I'm not sure AOII Angel and I ever had a civil word for each other until Hart came along. So when I received a PM from her, I was a little slow to open it. But what a sweet message it was offering Panhellenic support in light of Hart's comments about my chapter of initiation.

Well, I guess nothing unites people like a common enemy.

But since you brought it up...

I sent the mother that you were battering on that thread a supportive PM. She sent me several too.

Not surprisingly, the posters piling on this thread are many of the same ones who were piling on and ridiculing the mother on that thread:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...=128821&page=4

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

The way you could have handled this discussion on JL is to discuss YOUR experience in JL rather than discount others stories as simply negative propaganda. Just as in Greek Life, negative stories are often well deserved. You and the Junior League would have been better served by this discussion than the defensive ugliness that we just saw. THAT'S how GC is supposed to work.

You quoted and responded to me, not the other way around, to inject that the JL was mean to your friend. You then became emotional over my analogy. And there are quite a few points that are analogous to Greek discussions here. Imagine if I had suggested that in a group so large, surely she could find some people to ‘click’ with … advice that is routinely passed out here.

A number of you practically push one another out of the way to correct inaccurate minutia on this forum – but melt down and argue ad nauseam if anyone comments on yours.

There was no disrespect intended toward your GLO in linking the thread about AOIIs in Junior League – there is nothing inflammatory on that thread regarding your GLO or JL whatsoever.

On the other hand, you pull your GLO into everything dramatic and contentious you post – it’s your username. How is your GLO "better served" by "defensive ugliness?"

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

You quoted and responded to me, not the other way around, to inject that the JL was mean to your friend. You then became emotional over my analogy. And there are quite a few points that are analogous to Greek discussions here. Imagine if I had suggested that in a group so large, surely she could find some people to ‘click’ with … advice that is routinely passed out here.

A number of you practically push one another out of the way to correct inaccurate minutia on this forum – but melt down and argue ad nauseam if anyone comments on yours.

There was no disrespect intended toward your GLO in linking the thread about AOIIs in Junior League – there is nothing inflammatory on that thread regarding your GLO or JL whatsoever.

On the other hand, you pull your GLO into everything dramatic and contentious you post – it’s your username. How is your GLO "better served" by "defensive ugliness?"

The only dramatic things I post on GC seem to involve you. Isn't that odd? Most GC'ers seem to think I'm fairly benign and easy going, dare I say nice. I having stated my affiliation, unlike you, will stand by my behavior on GC. Other AOIIs know who I am, and I am known Internationally in AOII. Trust me, I behave in accordance with the ritual and teachings of AOII. It must be nice to hide behind the anonymity of only your school. Keep believing you are some innocent in all of these threads. That post was not innocent, and linking the AOIIs in JL thread wasn't meant to be nice and you know it. Your tone is anything but nice.