Chick-fil-a Support Day and Free Speech

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There have been many boycotts since the invention of social media.




I'm assuming you have lost your mind. Your post was horrible. The wording was horrible and what is embedded was horrible.


Do you really gauge concern and importance based on what clogs your faceboook feed? This world is definitely coming to an end.

Embedded?

Yeah, I agree that I didn't ask what I was actually thinking about very well.

Why has the present Chick-fil-a issue blown up? I can't really say if there is more concern or importance to it, but people seem to be talking about it a lot more. It seemed to me that the social media role was slightly different with this one, and that seemed significant. Maybe it's not.

There was no real change in Chick-fil-a's position. There was already a Chick-fil-a boycott because of Chick-fil-a's position. Religion was always a factor.

Maybe it's just that the folks involved managed the issue in a way that prolonged its coverage. Huckabee named a date which produced scenes that could be shown on the news. The Kiss-In is likely to produce news worthy footage as well. It's an election year. It's not bad economic news.

Or maybe interest in the issue will just dry up soon and it won't be any more significant, in attention paid, than other boycotts in the age of social media.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Embedded?

Whose level of concern and importance are facebook feeds supposed to gauge?

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Yeah, I agree that I didn't ask what I was actually thinking about very well.

LOL. I just have to pick on you because you ETA and it still sucked.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Why has the present Chick-fil-a issue blown up? I can't really say if there is more concern or importance to it, but people seem to be talking about it a lot more. It seemed to me that the social media role was slightly different with this one, and that seemed significant. Maybe it's not.

Lasting oppressions that have become a a big topic over the years + media + politicians running their mouths + media + faceboook + media + all that other stuff....

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Embedded?

Yeah, I agree that I didn't ask what I was actually thinking about very well.

Why has the present Chick-fil-a issue blown up? I can't really say if there is more concern or importance to it, but people seem to be talking about it a lot more. It seemed to me that the social media role was slightly different with this one, and that seemed significant. Maybe it's not.

There was no real change in Chick-fil-a's position. There was already a Chick-fil-a boycott because of Chick-fil-a's position. Religion was always a factor.

Maybe it's just that the folks involved managed the issue in a way that prolonged its coverage. Huckabee named a date which produced scenes that could be shown on the news. The Kiss-In is likely to produce news worthy footage as well. It's an election year. It's not bad economic news.

Or maybe interest in the issue will just dry up soon and it won't be any more significant, in attention paid, than other boycotts in the age of social media.

#1. No one cares what One Million Moms has to say because they water down their message by boycotting everyone.
#2. Yeah, social media helped this go crazy because the people who were targeted for the boycott are the same group who make things go viral on the Internet. One Million Moms will never go viral except with the flu passed from one of their kids to a million of their other kids.
#3. It is an election year, so both sides do see an opportunity to rev up the base. It's a problem from both sides. Huckabee wasn't supporting Chik-Fil-A for fear that anyone was really going to go out of business but for a chance to flex some political muscle. at the same time, Human Rights Campaign is sending out emails and writing articles and making new Chik-Fil-A logos with the catch phrase "We didn't invent discrimination. We just support it." People actually believed it was Chik-Fil-A's new logo.
#4. None of this changes the fact that this is a real issue to a large number of Americans.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

#1. No one cares what One Million Moms has to say because they water down their message by boycotting everyone.
#2. Yeah, social media helped this go crazy because the people who were targeted for the boycott are the same group who make things go viral on the Internet. One Million Moms will never go viral except with the flu passed from one of their kids to a million of their other kids.
#3. It is an election year, so both sides do see an opportunity to rev up the base. It's a problem from both sides. Huckabee wasn't supporting Chik-Fil-A for fear that anyone was really going to go out of business but for a chance to flex some political muscle. at the same time, Human Rights Campaign is sending out emails and writing articles and making new Chik-Fil-A logos with the catch phrase "We didn't invent discrimination. We just support it." People actually believed it was Chik-Fil-A's new logo.
#4. None of this changes the fact that this is a real issue to a large number of Americans.

No doubt it's a real issue. I certainly didn't mean to suggest that it wasn't.

I just started thinking about kSig's question about the Disney boycott back in the day and was trying to think of contemporary parallels and couldn't think of anything that got this big.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I just started thinking about kSig's question about the Disney boycott back in the day and was trying to think of contemporary parallels and couldn't think of anything that got this big.

I do agree with what you're saying here, it's tough to gauge "big" because of the influence of social media.

I just don't think it's particularly relevant to the comparison, since (theoretically) we're comparing motivations and intent.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I do agree with what you're saying here, it's tough to gauge "big" because of the influence of social media.

I just don't think it's particularly relevant to the comparison, since (theoretically) we're comparing motivations and intent.

I don't think our perceptions of the motivations are that different which makes me think I'm totally missing what you are telling me.

I think Chick-fil-a has a lot of perhaps weirdly loyal customers. The loyalty is probably tied to the Christian identity, but not, in my opinion, especially tied to opposition to same-sex marriage. So when they felt like Chick-fil-a and I'll go along with the idea that traditional/Christian values also were under attack, they were incredibly receptive to Huckabee's idea of a particular day to support CFA.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

#2. Yeah, social media helped this go crazy because the people who were targeted for the boycott are the same group who make things go viral on the Internet. One Million Moms will never go viral except with the flu passed from one of their kids to a million of their other kids.

Moms are some of the heaviest users of social media. I just got done working on a study on this topic at work. Motherhood is very isolating for many women, so they turn to blogging and social media networks to interact with others. Moms online are VERY social with each other, they are BIG into sharing, and word spreads like wild fire when they love or hate something.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Moms are some of the heaviest users of social media. I just got done working on a study on this topic at work. Motherhood is very isolating for many women, so they turn to blogging and social media networks to interact with others. Moms online are VERY social with each other, they are BIG into sharing, and word spreads like wild fire when they love or hate something.

One Million Moms don't exactly represent the average demographics of the American populace. They skew very right wing and are backed by an extremely right wing group, the American Family Association. The majority in this country are in the middle about homosexuality to accepting, which is my point. One Million Moms might do a better job if they stopped and focused on one issue or object of ire, but it's pretty difficult to effectively boycott Amazon, JC Penney, Sears, Oreos, Gap, TV shows like "The Soul Man", "The Client List" and "Don't Trust the Bitch in Apt 23" as well as commercials for Macy's and Liquid Plumr. OMG. You'd need more than one million moms for anyone to care about that list.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

One Million Moms don't exactly represent the average demographics of the American populace. They skew very right wing and are backed by an extremely right wing group, the American Family Association. The majority in this country are in the middle about homosexuality to accepting, which is my point. One Million Moms might do a better job if they stopped and focused on one issue or object of ire, but it's pretty difficult to effectively boycott Amazon, JC Penney, Sears, Oreos, Gap, TV shows like "The Soul Man", "The Client List" and "Don't Trust the Bitch in Apt 23" as well as commercials for Macy's and Liquid Plumr. OMG. You'd need more than one million moms for anyone to care about that list.

I suppose I'm hopeful though that maybe it means that conservatives are generally moderating on the issue, but no doubt there'd be boycott fatigue even from people who matched their views.

Certainly, you could generate more participation for a one day splash like either of the events at CFA this week deals than asking people to be in for the long haul.