Chick-fil-a Support Day and Free Speech

[pshsx1]

Oh yeah, and can we also talk about the conservative party (at the moment, the Republicans) in America are always on the wrong side of social rights issues? Yeah. Okay.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

If you ate at Chick-fil-A yesterday, I hope you get salmonella poisoning and die.

I still love you even though you wish me dead.

[SWTXBelle]

http://www.perrynoble.com/2012/08/01...46965925417366

"It simply needs to be pointed out that people on both sides of this argument have been way less than civil with each other…which does nothing more than proves the insecurity in us if we feel like we have to “lower the boom” on people who do not see exactly as we see. Honestly, it is my prayer that people on both sides of the argument would stop yelling at each other and talking about one another and actually sit down and talk to one another understanding that just because two people do not agree on an issue does not mean they have the right to hate one another for it."

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

Hell, if we really want to play in the Oppression Olympics, let's talk about Native Americans, shall we?

So, for the last time, stop bringing up the "fact" that the LGBTQ community hasn't had it as hard as the African-American community. (since you love this face so much)

Oh man, the Abuse Excuse. Boring. I didn't know people still played that game.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

I still love you even though you wish me dead.

How fucking patronizing.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by agzg

How fucking patronizing.

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

Oh yeah, and can we also talk about the conservative party (at the moment, the Republicans) in America are always on the wrong side of social rights issues? Yeah. Okay.

Not all of us. I can only hope the party I identify with more eventually evolves with time.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

//hijack

Sorry to be a grammar bitch here, but I've seen this word misused several times lately, and it is making me nuts. The correct word for your context is tenet.

From Webster:

Tenet: noun meaning: "a principle, belief, or doctrine generally held to be true; especially : one held in common by members of an organization, movement, or profession "

Tenant: noun meaning: "one who holds or possesses real estate or sometimes personal property (as a security) by any kind of right"

end hijack//

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

No, it's a tenet of being a dick. Stop it. You don't get to tell someone "I still love you" while supporting their oppression. Stop that shit.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by agzg

No, it's a tenet of being a dick. Stop it. You don't get to tell someone "I still love you" while supporting their oppression. Stop that shit.

And I love you, hardened heart and all.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

//hijack

Sorry to be a grammar bitch here, but I've seen this word misused several times lately, and it is making me nuts. The correct word for your context is tenet.

From Webster:

Tenet: noun meaning: "a principle, belief, or doctrine generally held to be true; especially : one held in common by members of an organization, movement, or profession "

Tenant: noun meaning: "one who holds or possesses real estate or sometimes personal property (as a security) by any kind of right"

end hijack//

Yes, I know. Unfortunately I didn't catch the iPad's autocorrect.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

I don't see why you're not understanding. See below:


And I believe that PiKA or MysticCat said that you have absolutely no idea what hardships an individual has been through. How much actual hate and oppression have you experienced? This isn't the time that we talk about our ancestors who were chained up on the boat and our grandparents who faced the hoses in the South; this is about us, right now.

Hell, if we really want to play in the Oppression Olympics, let's talk about Native Americans, shall we?

So, for the last time, stop bringing up the "fact" that the LGBTQ community hasn't had it as hard as the African-American community. (since you love this face so much)


Anyway, the ultimate point of this conversation is that if you went to Chick-Fil-A for food, especially on Huckabee Appreciation Day, you are supporting homophobia, heterosexism, and heterocentrism. Congrats.

Saving you a Google trip:
Heterocentrism - the societal ideology that heterosexuality is normal, better, and expected.
Heterosexism - a system of oppression that assumes all people are heterosexual
Homophobia - the fear, hatred, or discomfort with individuals who do not identify as heterosexual

Can I co-sign here? I think you should leave it at this, anything more with her will be beating a dead homophobic horse.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

And I love you, hardened heart and all.

This shit? This shit is what I hate about your apparent brand of Christianity. How many chicken sandwiches did you buy for the poor and disadvantaged while you made a statement in favor of bigotry? Any? Do you follow any of the tenets of your religion besides "homosexuals are BAD" and "I'm going to tell people who rightfully are pissed off at me for being an asshole that I love them anyway, so that I can prove I'm turning the other cheek?"

No. It doesn't work that way. You can't play the "I love you any way" and "turn the other cheek" shit when it's your own bigotry that people are upset with.

And no, it's not freedom of speech. You support freedom of bigotry. Freedom to actively try to stand in the way of someone else getting the same civil rights that you enjoy. You don't get to turn your other fucking cheek from that.

So listen to this, you bigoted asshole. YOUR HATE FOR SEN WAS MADE APPARENT THE MOMENT YOU STEPPED ON CHICK-FIL-A'S PROPERTY IN SUPPORT OF THEIR BIGOTRY. You don't get to love him in spite of it. You don't get to love me in spite of my hardened heart - my heart is hardened against the injustice of jerks like you forcing your perverted view of Christianity on me and others.

You are the very definition of hypocrisy.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

Surely you can understand why people would question that sincerity when your actions directly contradict your statement.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

How much actual hate and oppression have you experienced? This isn't the time that we talk about our ancestors who were chained up on the boat and our grandparents who faced the hoses in the South; this is about us, right now.

Why? If it weren't for their ability to survive those hardships then, then we would not be here now.

That is why I take it so personally.

I take it personally because I had grandparents and my own parents who lived in a segregated Jim Crow South. Did I personally experience the degree of hardships they did, no. But I was definitely educated and understood what happened from their own personal experiences.

Hell, if we really want to play in the Oppression Olympics, let's talk about Native Americans, shall we?

We can. Because they have been truly oppressed. Its not about Oppression Olympics and who is going to win. Its about defining your own cause on your own terms, and not trying to piggy-back on someone else.

So, for the last time, stop bringing up the "fact" that the LGBTQ community hasn't had it as hard as the African-American community. (since you love this face so much)

I'll stop bringing it up when they stop using images of my heritage to push their agenda. Like I said, define your own agenda, use your own history in terms of the LGBTO community to help others understand why you are oppressed.