Chick-fil-a Support Day and Free Speech

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by agzg

How fucking patronizing.

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

No, it's a tenet of being a dick. Stop it. You don't get to tell someone "I still love you" while supporting their oppression. Stop that shit.

[Greek_or_Geek?]

Originally Posted by agzg

No, it's a tenet of being a dick. Stop it. You don't get to tell someone "I still love you" while supporting their oppression. Stop that shit.

And I love you, hardened heart and all.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

And I love you, hardened heart and all.

This shit? This shit is what I hate about your apparent brand of Christianity. How many chicken sandwiches did you buy for the poor and disadvantaged while you made a statement in favor of bigotry? Any? Do you follow any of the tenets of your religion besides "homosexuals are BAD" and "I'm going to tell people who rightfully are pissed off at me for being an asshole that I love them anyway, so that I can prove I'm turning the other cheek?"

No. It doesn't work that way. You can't play the "I love you any way" and "turn the other cheek" shit when it's your own bigotry that people are upset with.

And no, it's not freedom of speech. You support freedom of bigotry. Freedom to actively try to stand in the way of someone else getting the same civil rights that you enjoy. You don't get to turn your other fucking cheek from that.

So listen to this, you bigoted asshole. YOUR HATE FOR SEN WAS MADE APPARENT THE MOMENT YOU STEPPED ON CHICK-FIL-A'S PROPERTY IN SUPPORT OF THEIR BIGOTRY. You don't get to love him in spite of it. You don't get to love me in spite of my hardened heart - my heart is hardened against the injustice of jerks like you forcing your perverted view of Christianity on me and others.

You are the very definition of hypocrisy.

[Tulip86]

Originally Posted by agzg

This shit? This shit is what I hate about your apparent brand of Christianity. How many chicken sandwiches did you buy for the poor and disadvantaged while you made a statement in favor of bigotry? Any? Do you follow any of the tenets of your religion besides "homosexuals are BAD" and "I'm going to tell people who rightfully are pissed off at me for being an asshole that I love them anyway, so that I can prove I'm turning the other cheek?"

No. It doesn't work that way. You can't play the "I love you any way" and "turn the other cheek" shit when it's your own bigotry that people are upset with.

And no, it's not freedom of speech. You support freedom of bigotry. Freedom to actively try to stand in the way of someone else getting the same civil rights that you enjoy. You don't get to turn your other fucking cheek from that.

So listen to this, you bigoted asshole. YOUR HATE FOR SEN WAS MADE APPARENT THE MOMENT YOU STEPPED ON CHICK-FIL-A'S PROPERTY IN SUPPORT OF THEIR BIGOTRY. You don't get to love him in spite of it. You don't get to love me in spite of my hardened heart - my heart is hardened against the injustice of jerks like you forcing your perverted view of Christianity on me and others.

You are the very definition of hypocrisy.

Now where is that Like button? This, this, this!

I think no one argues that freedom of speech isn't of utmost importance. However, if words turn in to actions, and those actions prevent another from living a fulfilling life, than, yes, I have a huge problem with that.

Personally, I haven't eaten at CFA in a while (may have something to do with their absence in Europe) but I don't believe for one second that a college educated person would think they were supporting freedom of speech when eating at CFA on that specific day. You were supporting bigotry, discrimination, fear and intolerance. And I think you should be profoundly embarrassed.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Tulip86

Now where is that Like button? This, this, this!

I think no one argues that freedom of speech isn't of utmost importance. However, if words turn in to actions, and those actions prevent another from living a fulfilling life, than, yes, I have a huge problem with that.

Personally, I haven't eaten at CFA in a while (may have something to do with their absence in Europe) but I don't believe for one second that a college educated person would think they were supporting freedom of speech when eating at CFA on that specific day. You were supporting bigotry, discrimination, fear and intolerance. And I think you should be profoundly embarrassed.

Not to mention that CFA Appreciation Day was proposed and planned BEFORE local politicians started expressing that maybe Chick-fil-A wasn't in line with their values. Mike Huckabee did call it originally for "free speech" but that's because Mike Huckabee doesn't know what the fuck "free speech" means.

But it's totally about free speech, right?

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I'll stop bringing it up when they stop using images of my heritage to push their agenda. Like I said, define your own agenda, use your own history in terms of the LGBTO community to help others understand why you are oppressed.

Could you please show me a copy of the gay agenda? I'm gay and I've yet to see one.

I'm also black (double whammy!) and I don't think I've seen a copy of the POC agenda either. Hm.

Originally Posted by Wildcat2016

Also I have NEVER heard a gay person compare their plight to the trail or tears or slavery. I have myself, however, compared this MOVEMENT towards equal rights for homosexuals to the women's rights or black rights movements because they they are similar in that, 20 years down the road, when gays are finally allowed to marry and have their peace, my kids will learn about this in history books and wonder why it all took so long.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by agzg

Not to mention that CFA Appreciation Day was proposed and planned BEFORE local politicians started expressing that maybe Chick-fil-A wasn't in line with their values. Mike Huckabee did call it originally for "free speech" but that's because Mike Huckabee doesn't know what the fuck "free speech" means.

But it's totally about free speech, right?

Well, this is sort of incorrect. The Boston stuff pre-dates Huckabee setting the date. I think the Chicago stuff follows it.

And even if Huckabee jumped out there early, the reasons people actually participated, I think, were influenced by everything that transpired before August 1 and by the way the issue was frame in the sources where they heard about it.

And the corporate giving stuff mentioned earlier may be off too. I understand that any giving to same-sex opponents is plenty for some to boycott. The info I saw, though, puts giving to external conservative groups as the minority of Chick-fil-a/Winshapes charitable giving overall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinShape_Foundation,
http://www.chick-fil-abowl.com/Givin...bleGiving.aspx (I know this connection is a little tenuous since it's a bowl game, but Chick-fil-a spends 22 million a year for sponsorship and I suspect in also involved in the charity aspects.)

I'll continue to look for something that breaks down their total giving to link.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

How sad you feel this way. It's actually a tenant of my Christian faith. I'm sorry you doubt my sincerity.

Surely you can understand why people would question that sincerity when your actions directly contradict your statement.