Starting a fraternity chapter, looking for advice part 2

[supahotboi]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Good luck with that attitude. You're (not "your") getting a college education; act like it. If you want to be taken seriously, you need to communicate like someone who is worth taking seriously.

Again, this is what I mean. First off, this is GC, and most of your posts I really can't take seriously (especially all these Rosie and MJ memes, like seriously?). Second, your really overvaluing what your saying just for your own sake, what your saying is not as important as you like to believe.

Originally Posted by 33girl

You didn't read a single word I posted. Your "efforts" seem to have been "I don't like any of the fraternities so I am going to start a new one and it should be super turbo easy, because Greek life at this school sucks donkey dick and I am super turbo awesome. I don't know why the national fraternity isn't holding my hand and telling me what to do. I don't want to run this like a sorority, or listen to anything anyone in a sorority says, even though hand-holding and being told what to do basically IS what sororities do when they colonize. I don't want to go out and talk to random people, because they might not be perfect for my fraternity. I don't want to think about this over the summer, because that's too hard."



Well then, please tell us exactly who the fraternities are who came there and expanded GROUND UP WITH ZERO STUDENT INITIATIVE AT THE RATE OF ONE A YEAR so we understand what we're working with. Frankly, I and probably most posters here find that part of your story quite hard to believe.

My problem with half the **** these posts say is that your making judgments so easily without really knowing any real facts. It's like any sort of explanation I have you refuse to listen to. I come here looking for answers and been seeking help, and you will just have to trust me. I get that this is the internet and I could be anyone for all you know, but again, why even respond other wise?

Second, this is a school where the HQ's come and draft up organizations and it makes sense why. The students are not the ones bringing them in (which at other schools I've seen it the other way around and I get what your saying). But again, it just does not work that way here. That is why I come here asking how other people have done it since where I am at, it seems as how people have done things is much different.

The Greek office is trying to change the system (just as everyone at the university is trying to build traditions and make it a more traditional 4 year university). The students don't do much here. I know that's hard to believe, but the school I go to is not that bright. It's just not. At least right now that is, maybe 10 years from now things will be different.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by supahotboi

I know that's hard to believe, but the school I go to is not that bright. It's just not. At least right now that is, maybe 10 years from now things will be different.

No, it's really not that hard to believe.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

No, it's really not that hard to believe.

You beat me to it.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by supahotboi

Well again when you sit there and post a bunch of nonsense and dont get straight to the point, of course I am not going to take anything you say seriously.

Again, this is my point. You said women can't respond, and now you're mad that they're responding negatively. You're really shocked by this? You're surprised that they don't want to give you advice?

Originally Posted by supahotboi

My problem with half the **** these posts say is that your making judgments so easily without really knowing any real facts. It's like any sort of explanation I have you refuse to listen to.

Hello, kettle? This is supahotboi. You're black.

[Old_Row]

After reading your posts here, it isn't hard to see why you're having trouble getting guys interested in joining you in this effort or why the other fraternities didn't want you.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by supahotboi

Again, this is what I mean. First off, this is GC, and most of your posts I really can't take seriously (especially all these Rosie and MJ memes, like seriously?). Second, your really overvaluing what your saying just for your own sake, what your saying is not as important as you like to believe.

Don't worry, I know exactly what my opinions are worth. I have a Y chromosome and everything.

[WCsweet<3]

Originally Posted by supahotboi

Again, this is what I mean. First off, this is GC, and most of your posts I really can't take seriously. Second, your really overvaluing what your saying just for your own sake, what your saying is not as important as you like to believe.

Right back at you. Yes this is GC. We take grammar and spelling seriously. We even had a poll on whether or not it was serious to the members of the board. It was voted very important. Also you are asking for advice and therefore should at least be somewhat polite to us. If you aren't going to treat us with respect then we will think you aren't serious. Would you ask advice from a group of knowledgable people in real life and treat them this way? If the answer is yes, then you will have a lot of fun in the real world. We don't have to give you advice and in fact, you are making it more likely for us to think you are an annoying immature brat who wants the easy way out. Yes, you have done work and we understand you want a break. We are saying that if you want to be successful, taking a break will hinder you.

Secondly, you are overvaluing what you are saying and undervaluing us. Many of us (women included) have been involved with colonizations and not just sororities. You are throwing away advice you deem unimportant because it is from women even though it is exactly what the men are saying. Honestly, the bottom line is that there is more work to be done and you keep saying you don't want to. You have to meet guys you don't know. YOu will have to work towards it. If there are men going to your college from your hometown rush them at home. Try having a BBQ or something or go out for drinks.

Stop complaining, start listening. TO EVERYONE. This isn't just for Greek Life but for reality as well.


"We should never pretend to know what we don't know, we should not feel ashamed to ask and learn from people below, and we should listen carefully to the views of the cadres at the lowest levels. Be a pupil before you become a teacher; learn from the cadres at the lower levels before you issue orders."
— Mao Tse-tung

[ASTalumna06]

How freakin' ironic. Check out this article that was posted today on Phiredup.com

http://www.phiredup.com/index.php?op...rdpress&p=1866

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

How freakin' ironic. Check out this article that was posted today on Phiredup.com

http://www.phiredup.com/index.php?op...rdpress&p=1866

That's perfect! How much you wanna bet lukewarmboi completely ignores it?