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Originally Posted by Kevin
I don't even think that's his biggest problem. The organization he's recruiting for either doesn't take him seriously or is just awful at expansion efforts. This group has made a lot of bad decisions. Summer rush is just one of them.
That said, early on in our colonization process, we did have some pretty piss poor numbers and lacked the institutional knowledge to recruit throughout the summer. We're doing pretty well today.
It's conceivable he could pull things off, but he's going to need either more organizational support or some sort of something to be able to retain membership once it's been recruited. Rush is only part of the picture. Without some means to retain members, you're just spinning your wheels.
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Since your the only person that I can take serious in this thread (and the only guy really, again no offense to the ladies but they aren't really saying anything that's really serious or useful), everyone should save their breathe. It's just a really pathetic troll at this point. The only thing that's really lazy here is the inability for anyone to use their brains.
There is a lot going on here to even think about summer rush. Again, it's not that I desperately can't do a summer rush, I'm sure it's very possible, the real question is, how is it worth while in this stage of the game? To you it seems as it's in my best interest, but there is a lot more going on in my situation.
First off, it's not just me that's involved. I have friends that are interested in the idea of starting a fraternity, 3-4 guys specifically that are interested in being more involved, maybe more but there are 3-4 guys that are close to the situation I guess you can say. However, they all have things to do this summer and I cant really hold them back. One guy wont be here, another has life things to take care of that definitely matter, another guy doesn't know whats really going on, its pretty complicated and its been a lot of stress to me, someone who's been mainly leading the situation. Plus with other life things to be stressed about, its really something that I'm taking slow. Again, we all really want to do this, but first we have to figure out what the **** is going on before we decide to do anything else.
Second, theres no real direction here of the future. I don't want to waste a bunch of peoples time when I myself and others don't know what we are really doing or where we really need to go. To me and my friends, we wouldn't want a bunch of guys who are mindlessly following a fraternity with no clue of whats to tell. We want some really intellectual and strong minded people to join this, not a bunch of people who have no idea what they really want. We definately can see that greek life is very beneficial and that theres a lot worth while in it, however, we can see that its not so black in white in how it all happens. Before we decide to create a bunch of relationships based on a business, we need to see how this business can happen. We want to do this right. Again, after dealing with a really sketchy group that wouldn't be beneficial to the university, or to really anyone, we want to make something that's actually going to be worth somebodies and our own time.
I'm not even sure what the greek office is really interested in (which I should find out this week) of what their plans are. It's like even if I find some guys who are interested in the idea, we wouldn't know what's next. With the fraternity that I been talking to, the next thing I plan to find out is what are they really interested in doing. The national organization has not been too involved for whatever reasons. It could be due to the division of our group and how messy everything has gotten, but even still it's just all too odd.
I notice they definitely want to improve the quality of greek life as a whole since the less than 4%, the overall gpa is less than 3.0, theres hardly any presence of the system anywhere on campus, its not really something that people at my school think is that special. Again, it reflects the attitude of the institution. The athletics here are mediocre, the university isn't too diverse in it's academics, student life is low, its really a university that is still itself lost in it's identity.
What exactly was it like at your school when you came on? Was the university doing well or was it really stagnant?
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