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Old 12-01-2011, 10:29 AM
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I'm sure that a wedding isn't one of them, but that really wasn't my point. I think you're reading more into what I said than I intended. My first point were simply that the statement "If you are not in communion with the Roman Catholic Church . . . you don't take communion" was a bit of an overstatement. My second (and main) point was that what ellebud described was not, I don't think, the same as what the article in the OP describes. The article describes two people who decide to appropriate religious traditions of a religion they do not claim as their own because they like those traditions and want something "different." What ellebud described is an officiating clergyman violating the canons of his own religion (perhaps so as not to seem inhospitable, but who knows), effectively placing a burden on others to know what the rules are. In the first instance, it's people not of the religion who might be seen as acting inappropriately; in the second instance, it's the member of (and authority figure in) the religion who would be seen to be acting inappropriately.

It is a highjack, but as long as we've gone there: a major pet peeve of mine is to equate transubstantiation and Real Presence. Transubstation is a way (based on Aristotelian philosophy) of explaining and understanding the Real Presence, but it is hardly the only way. While it is the official understanding of the Real Presence of the Roman Catholic Church, many Christians (including some Roman Catholics I know of, not to mention those who agree with Article XXIX of the Articles of Religion) fully believe in the Real Presence without adhering to transubstantiation as an explanation of that Presence.

[/pet peeve rant off]
Okay, I lied and am back on the hijack for a moment.

I apologize for not being clear about speaking to the hijack as opposed to the op.

It is of course a matter of how Real Presence is defined - since I was coming from a Roman Catholic perspective, that was how I was using it, which I thought was clear. I will make sure to clearly state transubstantiation if that is what I mean as opposed to the broader concept of the Real Presence in mixed company. // real end of my hijack - maybe.
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