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Old 11-28-2011, 11:21 AM
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I agree... it really wasnt the new members fault. We are only a local. but im sure my sisters would be willing to accept the new class into our sisterhood in this situation. Not that it will ever come up since we dont have any NPC orgs here and I doubt we ever will.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:08 PM
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I agree with this. Everyone says stuff like "once you initiate into an NPC, you can never initiate elsewhere". I'd like to think that, at some point, there have been exceptions made, for exactly this reason.
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And really, how much of your ritual do you remember after your own initiation? There's so much going on, what with the cat suits and hovercrafts, that it's pretty hard to remember even the important parts. I think you wouldn't be too much of a risk of sharing secrets, accurately anyway. I would be supportive of these highly unusual circumstances but of course there would have to be a REALLY good reason.
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I agree... it really wasnt the new members fault. We are only a local. but im sure my sisters would be willing to accept the new class into our sisterhood in this situation. Not that it will ever come up since we dont have any NPC orgs here and I doubt we ever will.
ahhhhh...No.

Disagree, respectfully.

Some policies, there is no wiggle room. This is, IMO, one of them. If you are initiated, you are initiated. You'll be granted alumnae status if a chapter closes for low membership. For Risk Management reasons - that's another story entirely, and up to each individual GLO's policies.

I'd be willing to wager that the OP wasn't paying close attention to the chapter's status, because in my experience there is typically a LOT of talk prior to a chapter's closure. It's really hard to hide this sort of thing, people. Especially today, where it takes all of 14 seconds for something to hit the Internet and be broadcast to hell and back for anyone and everyone to read.

As for not remembering initiation, well...I have to disagree with that as well. The chapter I advise conducts a review of Initiation immediately after (within a day), as well as weekly Ritual presentations during Chapter. We often have alumnae present at the Initiation review. We do our utmost to keep Ritual at the forefront, in a positive light, as a guiding principle for chapter operations, not as a "club" or "punishment." I speak with other advisors from other chapters at my campus and they do similar activities with their new initiates.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:38 PM
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ahhhhh...No.

Disagree, respectfully.

Some policies, there is no wiggle room. This is, IMO, one of them. If you are initiated, you are initiated. You'll be granted alumnae status if a chapter closes for low membership. For Risk Management reasons - that's another story entirely, and up to each individual GLO's policies.

I'd be willing to wager that the OP wasn't paying close attention to the chapter's status, because in my experience there is typically a LOT of talk prior to a chapter's closure. It's really hard to hide this sort of thing, people. Especially today, where it takes all of 14 seconds for something to hit the Internet and be broadcast to hell and back for anyone and everyone to read.

As for not remembering initiation, well...I have to disagree with that as well. The chapter I advise conducts a review of Initiation immediately after (within a day), as well as weekly Ritual presentations during Chapter. We often have alumnae present at the Initiation review. We do our utmost to keep Ritual at the forefront, in a positive light, as a guiding principle for chapter operations, not as a "club" or "punishment." I speak with other advisors from other chapters at my campus and they do similar activities with their new initiates.
My question is, was she actually initiated? As someone pointed out, the initiation may not have been approved by a National that KNEW that the chapter was in a lot of hot water. What's to say that she actually got initiated?
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:30 PM
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ahhhhh...No.

Disagree, respectfully.

Some policies, there is no wiggle room. This is, IMO, one of them. If you are initiated, you are initiated. You'll be granted alumnae status if a chapter closes for low membership. For Risk Management reasons - that's another story entirely, and up to each individual GLO's policies.

I'd be willing to wager that the OP wasn't paying close attention to the chapter's status, because in my experience there is typically a LOT of talk prior to a chapter's closure. It's really hard to hide this sort of thing, people. Especially today, where it takes all of 14 seconds for something to hit the Internet and be broadcast to hell and back for anyone and everyone to read.

As for not remembering initiation, well...I have to disagree with that as well. The chapter I advise conducts a review of Initiation immediately after (within a day), as well as weekly Ritual presentations during Chapter. We often have alumnae present at the Initiation review. We do our utmost to keep Ritual at the forefront, in a positive light, as a guiding principle for chapter operations, not as a "club" or "punishment." I speak with other advisors from other chapters at my campus and they do similar activities with their new initiates.
TOTAL lane swerve/

I was waiting for someone to type this. I agree with all of this 100%.

I think this may be one of the NPC topics where it can be difficult for NPCers to speak generally when this may be more about specific NPC GLOs' policies. Don't quote me on that, though. LOL.

As for not remembering ritual after initiation, perhaps I am reading this incorrectly but, I do not understand how and why someone would not remember that. It really meant something to me on that day and I still remember it almost 150 years later. Part of that memory is fueled by the fact that I have had the privilege of initiating Sorors at the collegiate and alumnae levels throughout the years. But, it wasn't an easily forgotten experience when I was initiated.

/TOTAL lane swerve

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Old 11-28-2011, 05:56 PM
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