Bid Lists 2011

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.

Alabama http://quickfacts.ua.edu/demographics.html 67% from Alabama, 31% out of state, 3% international (check your math Bama, that's over 100%)

[dukemama]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Alabama http://quickfacts.ua.edu/demographics.html 67% from Alabama, 31% out of state, 3% international (check your math Bama, that's over 100%)

As a market researcher who deals with statistics on a daily basis I see this all the time. That's why when I write reports, I often add "results may add to more than 100% due to rounding".

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Oh, AggieAXO - I saw that you had posted and thought "YES! She will have the bid list!".

My Gamma Phi contact was told that releasing it was a privacy issue . . . but I just know SOMEONE here can get it.

Originally Posted by aggieAXO

Nope, I wish. It seems A&M does not like to release lists like the other schools. Most of the time to find out where girls pledged, we had to read the Battalion (A&Ms newspaper-many soroities will take out an ad with their pledges names).

I know I am in the minority here, but I like that they are respecting the privacy of these women/students. Wasn't it just last year new members in the South were targeted via facebook by a person pretending to be an alumna and being super inappropriate? FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) is probably what is in play here, as what sorority a woman joins is personally identifying information. I sure as hell hope there is some sort of written consent on hand for the schools that publish name, sorority, and home town. The sororities individually sharing that information isn't illegal as they don't fall under FERPA, which is why ads are put in the newspaper no problem.

My school handles FERPA down to whether your name can be released as a scholarship winner, if you're on the Dean's list, published in the newspaper, even in the graduation program when one graduates. In light of recent events on my campus I'm happy we do that as it allows students to make their own choices and protect people on different levels.

Originally Posted by dukemama

As a market researcher who deals with statistics on a daily basis I see this all the time. That's why when I write reports, I often add "results may add to more than 100% due to rounding".

I'm a huge fan of +/- error, or your "due to rounding" but it just made me laugh since it is on the page of a higher education institution.

[ComradesTrue]

TCU ZTA list, with photo (page 5).

http://www.tcu360.com/sites/default/...2011-08-30.pdf

[dukemama]

Originally Posted by Blondie93

TCU ZTA list, with photo (page 5).

http://www.tcu360.com/sites/default/...2011-08-30.pdf

Poor KK Krenek - those initials!

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by dukemama

Poor KK Krenek - those initials!

i know...what were her parents thinking?

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I know I am in the minority here, but I like that they are respecting the privacy of these women/students. Wasn't it just last year new members in the South were targeted via facebook by a person pretending to be an alumna and being super inappropriate? FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) is probably what is in play here, as what sorority a woman joins is personally identifying information. I sure as hell hope there is some sort of written consent on hand for the schools that publish name, sorority, and home town. The sororities individually sharing that information isn't illegal as they don't fall under FERPA, which is why ads are put in the newspaper no problem.

My school handles FERPA down to whether your name can be released as a scholarship winner, if you're on the Dean's list, published in the newspaper, even in the graduation program when one graduates. In light of recent events on my campus I'm happy we do that as it allows students to make their own choices and protect people on different levels.




I'm a huge fan of +/- error, or your "due to rounding" but it just made me laugh since it is on the page of a higher education institution.

I understand the school not releasing it - but sororities are now under the impression that FERPA means they cannot tell alumnae where a particular girl pledged. I get that it's a sick, sad, dangerous world out there, but really - if I wrote a rec, or am president of an alumnae panhellenic, odds are I don't want the information to stalk a girl (unless sending a note of congratulations is stalking.) Next year I plan to ask pnms to PLEASE e-mail me or whoever is president or vice-president with their results, although given that they are starting school and doing exciting sorority bid-day and early pledgeship events, that might be asking too much.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I understand the school not releasing it - but sororities are now under the impression that FERPA means they cannot tell alumnae where a particular girl pledged. I get that it's a sad, sad, dangerous world out there, but really - if I wrote a rec, or am president of an alumnae panhellenic, odds are I don't want the information to stalk a girl (unless sending a note of congratulations is stalking.) Next year I plan to ask pnms to PLEASE e-mail me or whoever is president or vice-president with their results, although given that they are starting school and doing exciting sorority bid-day and early pledgeship events, that might be asking too much.

This is probably a dumb/obvious question, but can't you email them? I ask for an email address (and usually it's automatically on their resume) from each of my rec girls. Not for my purposes, but if for some reason the chapter needed it at a later point.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I understand the school not releasing it - but sororities are now under the impression that FERPA means they cannot tell alumnae where a particular girl pledged. I get that it's a sad, sad, dangerous world out there, but really - if I wrote a rec, or am president of an alumnae panhellenic, odds are I don't want the information to stalk a girl (unless sending a note of congratulations is stalking.) Next year I plan to ask pnms to PLEASE e-mail me or whoever is president or vice-president with their results, although given that they are starting school and doing exciting sorority bid-day and early pledgeship events, that might be asking too much.

I really don't think the average collegiate chapter is aware of FERPA (heaven knows their parents aren't when they call professors and the university about their kids), but they are aware of their own RM policies which some groups stress to not put names, photos, email addresses, etc. on web pages, advertise when and where closed events are, and it sucks for you but it is the reality of the world we live in. You might think it is "sad sad" but I think college students and younger aren't taught enough about protecting their safety and privacy. There's a whole thread about a continual alumna perp in the Greek Life forum, who is operating in the region you want information about. I'm not surprised if between that and the facebook creeper last year information is harder to obtain than in previous years.

If you're writing recs you have the information for PNMs, so why don't you just contact them directly or their family? You answered the situation yourself, the successful PNMs are busy being college freshmen, and the collegians are recovering from recruitment. I get that it is important to you, but it isn't a priority for the chapters and I doubt that will change with super busy over programmed college students. In a perfect world alumnae receive thank you cards for submitting recs and updates about their chapters, but we don't.

[dukemama]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I'm a huge fan of +/- error, or your "due to rounding" but it just made me laugh since it is on the page of a higher education institution.

I agree!