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08-28-2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DubaiSis
I'd like to run the data for UT and the other big Texas schools to compare/contrast the in state/out of state differences with Auburn and Bama, the schools we do have the data on. And yes, I know that makes me an out of the closet geek. I own it.
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Which ones do you want? I put in a sprinkling for comparison of big greek schools.... These are the overall percent of out of state students (including international) for undergrads.
University of Georgia: 10% (Athens, GA)
University of Kentucky: 12% (Lexington, KY)
University of Tennessee: 14% (Knoxville, TN)
University of Alabama: 21% (Tuscaloosa, AL)
Mississippi State University: 21% (Mississippi State, MS)
Auburn University: 30% (Auburn, AL)
University of Arizona: 24% (Tucson, AZ)
University of California -- Berkeley: 14% (Berkeley, CA)
Clemson University: 30% (Clemson, SC)
Indiana University Bloomington: 28% (Bloomington, IN)
University of Oklahoma: 18% (Norman, OK)
University of North Texas: 10% (Denton, TX)
Texas Tech University: 6% (Lubbock, TX)
University of Texas -- Austin: 5% (Austin, TX)
Texas A&M University -- College Station: 4% (College Station, TX)
- also not a closeted geek.....
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08-28-2011, 09:28 PM
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Which ones do you want? I put in a sprinkling for comparison of big greek schools.... These are the overall percent of out of state students (including international) for undergrads.
University of Georgia: 10% (Athens, GA)
University of Kentucky: 12% (Lexington, KY)
University of Tennessee: 14% (Knoxville, TN)
University of Alabama: 21% (Tuscaloosa, AL)
Mississippi State University: 21% (Mississippi State, MS)
Auburn University: 30% (Auburn, AL)
University of Arizona: 24% (Tucson, AZ)
University of California -- Berkeley: 14% (Berkeley, CA)
Clemson University: 30% (Clemson, SC)
Indiana University Bloomington: 28% (Bloomington, IN)
University of Oklahoma: 18% (Norman, OK)
University of North Texas: 10% (Denton, TX)
Texas Tech University: 6% (Lubbock, TX)
University of Texas -- Austin: 5% (Austin, TX)
Texas A&M University -- College Station: 4% (College Station, TX)
- also not a closeted geek.....

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Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.
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08-29-2011, 04:33 AM
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Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.
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Alabama http://quickfacts.ua.edu/demographics.html 67% from Alabama, 31% out of state, 3% international (check your math Bama, that's over 100%)
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08-29-2011, 03:44 PM
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As a market researcher who deals with statistics on a daily basis I see this all the time. That's why when I write reports, I often add "results may add to more than 100% due to rounding".
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08-29-2011, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
Oh, AggieAXO - I saw that you had posted and thought "YES! She will have the bid list!".
My Gamma Phi contact was told that releasing it was a privacy issue . . . but I just know SOMEONE here can get it.
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Nope, I wish. It seems A&M does not like to release lists like the other schools. Most of the time to find out where girls pledged, we had to read the Battalion (A&Ms newspaper-many soroities will take out an ad with their pledges names).
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I know I am in the minority here, but I like that they are respecting the privacy of these women/students. Wasn't it just last year new members in the South were targeted via facebook by a person pretending to be an alumna and being super inappropriate? FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) is probably what is in play here, as what sorority a woman joins is personally identifying information. I sure as hell hope there is some sort of written consent on hand for the schools that publish name, sorority, and home town. The sororities individually sharing that information isn't illegal as they don't fall under FERPA, which is why ads are put in the newspaper no problem.
My school handles FERPA down to whether your name can be released as a scholarship winner, if you're on the Dean's list, published in the newspaper, even in the graduation program when one graduates. In light of recent events on my campus I'm happy we do that as it allows students to make their own choices and protect people on different levels.
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As a market researcher who deals with statistics on a daily basis I see this all the time. That's why when I write reports, I often add "results may add to more than 100% due to rounding". 
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I'm a huge fan of +/- error, or your "due to rounding" but it just made me laugh since it is on the page of a higher education institution.
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08-30-2011, 05:52 AM
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08-30-2011, 09:56 AM
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Poor KK Krenek - those initials!
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08-30-2011, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel
I know I am in the minority here, but I like that they are respecting the privacy of these women/students. Wasn't it just last year new members in the South were targeted via facebook by a person pretending to be an alumna and being super inappropriate? FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) is probably what is in play here, as what sorority a woman joins is personally identifying information. I sure as hell hope there is some sort of written consent on hand for the schools that publish name, sorority, and home town. The sororities individually sharing that information isn't illegal as they don't fall under FERPA, which is why ads are put in the newspaper no problem.
My school handles FERPA down to whether your name can be released as a scholarship winner, if you're on the Dean's list, published in the newspaper, even in the graduation program when one graduates. In light of recent events on my campus I'm happy we do that as it allows students to make their own choices and protect people on different levels.
I'm a huge fan of +/- error, or your "due to rounding" but it just made me laugh since it is on the page of a higher education institution.
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I understand the school not releasing it - but sororities are now under the impression that FERPA means they cannot tell alumnae where a particular girl pledged. I get that it's a sick, sad, dangerous world out there, but really - if I wrote a rec, or am president of an alumnae panhellenic, odds are I don't want the information to stalk a girl (unless sending a note of congratulations is stalking.) Next year I plan to ask pnms to PLEASE e-mail me or whoever is president or vice-president with their results, although given that they are starting school and doing exciting sorority bid-day and early pledgeship events, that might be asking too much.
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08-30-2011, 09:14 AM
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I understand the school not releasing it - but sororities are now under the impression that FERPA means they cannot tell alumnae where a particular girl pledged. I get that it's a sad, sad, dangerous world out there, but really - if I wrote a rec, or am president of an alumnae panhellenic, odds are I don't want the information to stalk a girl (unless sending a note of congratulations is stalking.) Next year I plan to ask pnms to PLEASE e-mail me or whoever is president or vice-president with their results, although given that they are starting school and doing exciting sorority bid-day and early pledgeship events, that might be asking too much.
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This is probably a dumb/obvious question, but can't you email them? I ask for an email address (and usually it's automatically on their resume) from each of my rec girls. Not for my purposes, but if for some reason the chapter needed it at a later point.
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08-30-2011, 09:57 AM
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I'm a huge fan of +/- error, or your "due to rounding" but it just made me laugh since it is on the page of a higher education institution.
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I agree!
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08-31-2011, 09:38 AM
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Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.
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This was from a list on www.insidecollege.com.
Maybe this list is a year or two old? It had all of them in one place. The % out of state is not listed on the statistics on the Peterson's Guide? but it was close to the published numbers of the couple of universities that I checked on their own websites.
It gives you a rough ballpark for the difference between Cal and U-Texas and U. Tenn and Auburn or Bama.
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09-01-2011, 06:12 AM
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