The Golden Rule - Page 3

violetpretty · #1 08-23-2011, 05:03 PM

Is it dogpiling if you're the first one to snark?

KSUViolet06 · #2 08-23-2011, 05:56 PM

You guys were being SUCH cyber bullies to noobs in here:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=121377

and SUCH HOSTILITY here:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...803#post208380

shirley1929 · #3 08-23-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

You guys were being SUCH cyber bullies to noobs in here:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=121377

and SUCH HOSTILITY here:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...803#post208380

To this, I refer back to:

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Originally Posted by shirley1929

I also know someone is going to reply to this post defending something they said or did. I may or may not be speaking directly to you.

And yes, I know those were nice posts.

Drolefille · #4 08-23-2011, 07:24 PM

This post is reserved for my reply to be made when I'm no longer at work.

Your post is important to us. It will be answered in the order it was received.

Please hold.

als463 · #5 08-23-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

This post is reserved for my reply to be made when I'm no longer at work.

Your post is important to us. It will be answered in the order it was received.

Please hold.

Is it wrong of me that I am really looking forward to your post? This whole time I was thinking, "Why hasn't Drolefille said anything?" I also looked forward to reading something from MC, KS, and DrPhil.

VandalSquirrel · #6 08-23-2011, 09:34 PM

Now maybe it is because I haven't been having the best day that I'm responding thusly, but instead of a passive aggressive finger wagging thread, why not just call out the individuals who are sugar pops mean girls and you think are poor examples? Why make a thread that the majority find insulting and ridiculous, and therefore make yourself a target for the horrible behavior of all of us?

Do I think a lot of posters, both PNMs and their mamas need to get a grip and step away from GC? Obviously! However I find the whole intention of this thread exponentially more ridiculous and ludicrous than things that have allegedly been said. I'm not going to tell someone to go to Happy Pony Rainbow Land (get it right if you're going to mock it and us) I'm going to tell you that if you're this butt hurt over GC you want to call us out and throw some shade, perhaps you need to learn about the ignore function or log off from the internet for awhile.

Call individuals and their behavior out by name, or keep it to yourself. If that statement is going to hold in the recruitment forum for a certain mama, daughter, and what not when people get accusatory, it is good enough for the Greek Life forum.

MysticCat · #7 08-23-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

I also looked forward to reading something from MC, KS, and DrPhil.

All right. My $0.02, for what they're worth:

I think threads like this rarely have the desired effect. Even when motivated by a sincere desire to improve things, they tend to come across as patronizing and preachy. People do not usually respond positively to what can come across like pontification. So the result is that more often than not threads like this produce the opposite of the desired effect. This is a fairly foreseeable outcome.

I think that is particularly true when legitimate opinions are minimized. For example, to ask that someone with a differing opinion not be called a "sock-puppet" or "troll" diminishes the valid criticisms of real sock-puppets and trolls by dismissing those criticisms as "you just disagree with/don't like them."

I also think it is particularly true when someone suggests in any way that others aren't living up to the ideals of their fraternity or sorority. I learned that the hard way many years ago. Judgmental observations are rarely appreciated.

Yes, many here go overboard sometimes, me included I'm afraid. But sometimes the harshness is, if not polite, understandable. The actions of some posters have taught others not to take everything at face value, or to recognize signs that something isn't on the up-and-up.

No, it's not always pretty. But I tend to think these things have a way of working and evening themselves out, and the best way for that to happen is through dialogue -- challenging specific posts that one thinks are out of line and letting the community, with moderator assistance when necessary, police itself.

Passive-aggressive threads like this, on the other hand, fan the flames and become part of the problem.

knight_shadow · #8 08-24-2011, 12:36 AM

I don't think you covered everything, DF

Optimus Prime · #9 08-24-2011, 03:46 AM

Can we talk about the REAL golden rule?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw

AlphaFrog · #10 08-24-2011, 05:54 AM

This thread is sooooo 2007....Actually, we get one of these EVERY year, it's just that this particular one I remember who started and could easily find.

What this thread is lacking, however, is the OP telling us how many PMs she got in support of her thread. That's a classic rule of these kind of threads that can't be ignored.

shirley1929 · #11 08-24-2011, 07:30 AM

I started this really in response to Wary's thread, so this either applies to you directly or it doesn't. Yes, she was warned not to continue, and she went forward, but does that give someone the license to create a sockpuppet with direct threats on her daughter's rush? Like they're the police of GreekChat?

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

What this thread is lacking, however, is the OP telling us how many PMs she got in support of her thread. That's a classic rule of these kind of threads that can't be ignored.

And, I actually know better than to do that, because I know I'd get further flamed. But since you mentioned it, yes, I have received several.

I seriously didn't think that just a reminder to play nice in the sandbox would get people THAT rankled. If you're being nice, (and most of you are or else I wouldn't be trying to salvage this place) then I'm not talking to you directly. What I guess I didn't think through so much, was that if you're not, then you probably won't listen to me anyway.

I've just had so many people say to me (noobs) that they're scared to post anything because they're afraid of saying something. Is that the kind of environment we want to be a part of?

AlphaFrog · #12 08-24-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929

I started this really in response to Wary's thread, so this either applies to you directly or it doesn't. Yes, she was warned not to continue, and she went forward, but does that give someone the license to create a sockpuppet with direct threats on her daughter's rush? Like they're the SS of GreekChat?

And, I actually know better than to do that, because I know I'd get further flamed. But since you mentioned it, yes, I have received several.

I seriously didn't think that just a reminder to play nice in the sandbox would get people THAT rankled. If you're being nice, (and most of you are or else I wouldn't be trying to salvage this place) then I'm not talking to you directly. What I guess I didn't think through so much, was that if you're not, then you probably won't listen to me anyway.

I've just had so many people say to me (noobs) that they're scared to post anything because they're afraid of saying something. Is that the kind of environment we want to be a part of?

SALVAGE this place? I wasn't aware that we were in need of a redeemer here. Should we praise you for offering yourself on the cross of ridicule? Sheesh.

shirley1929 · #13 08-24-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

SALVAGE this place? I wasn't aware that we were in need of a redeemer here. Should we praise you for offering yourself on the cross of ridicule? Sheesh.

Salvage is a big word, you're right & I haven't had coffee yet.

Guess I meant salvage it for the noobs. I've just directed a bunch of people here for advice and they're literally scared of it and won't post any questions. Most of you (absolutely you AF) are wonderful lovely people. I'm just looking for more people to feel comfortable and quit lurking. Maybe I poop rainbows.

Drolefille · #14 08-24-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929

I've just had so many people say to me (noobs) that they're scared to post anything because they're afraid of saying something. Is that the kind of environment we want to be a part of?

Oh look, we got the PMs line now.

Boring.

Stop saying "we" like you represent anything but you.

Also since you fucking Godwin'd the thread you officially lose and the thread is over.

SS of Greekchat indeed, fuck you.

shirley1929 · #15 08-24-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Oh look, we got the PMs line now.

Boring.

Stop saying "we" like you represent anything but you.

Also since you fucking Godwin'd the thread you officially lose and the thread is over.

SS of Greekchat indeed, fuck you.

Wow...hostility! Definitely wasn't looking for that, but OK.

If you read the next one, I'm talking about people I personally direct here (for the good info) and then become scared to ask anything.

G'Day.