boots to one of the rush days?

[dekeguy]

From a guy's point of view: You are kidding, right?

My sister, who was reading over my shoulder said, "Pond life?" (Brit for 'bottom feeder').

Comment: Please don't. I think it could hurt your chances.

Ladies, Please back me up or tell her that as a guy I just don't get it. I think she needs guidance on what floats during rush.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

From a guy's point of view: You are kidding, right?

My sister, who was reading over my shoulder said, "Pond life?" (Brit for 'bottom feeder').

Comment: Please don't. I think it could hurt your chances.

Ladies, Please back me up or tell her that as a guy I just don't get it. I think she needs guidance on what floats during rush.

Stay in your lane. I'm willing to hazard a guess that "from a guy's point of view" doesn't mean jack shit in sorority recruitment.

To the OP, I love love love the boots, but agree with 33girl that the dress looks summery. Now, it might be appropriate in, say, Georgia, but October recruitment in the North could make it a bit chilly, and such a summery dress would be inappropriate. There are some cute updated sweater dresses with longer sleeves out there that might look good with the boots.

This is all from a northern standpoint, I'm sure some of our other posters from differing regions can give some region-specific advice in terms of what may or may not be appropriate for recruitment in that region in October.

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by agzg

Stay in your lane. I'm willing to hazard a guess that "from a guy's point of view" doesn't mean jack shit in sorority recruitment.

Thank you for your gracious comment!

I do, however, recall that I have never seen any thread titled as "A question for the boys" or "I need a guys thoughts on this" etc. that wasn't filled with many comments from the distaff side of GC. So, I wonder why I am ordered to stay in my lane when gender restrictions apparently do not apply to the ladies.

As to the value of my opinion, please note that I politely requested either agreement or disagreement to serve as useful advice to the one asking for it, not vulgarity. If one wishes to be respected as a lady one must conduct herself as such. The thought crosses my mind that the gracious content of your commentary might cause your advice be called into question as to its value in sorority recruitment.

I am more than willing to stipulate that my point of view might well have very limited value in this issue, although my sister tells me that my input was a good call. She tells me that because of the very limited time available for the chapter to get to know a prospective new member the candidate must be careful to project her persona in every respect in the most positive way.

So, as limited as the value of my comment might be, my original submission stands as posted.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

Thank you for your gracious comment!

I do, however, recall that I have never seen any thread titled as "A question for the boys" or "I need a guys thoughts on this" etc. that wasn't filled with many comments from the distaff side of GC. So, I wonder why I am ordered to stay in my lane when gender restrictions apparently do not apply to the ladies.

As to the value of my opinion, please note that I politely requested either agreement or disagreement to serve as useful advice to the one asking for it, not vulgarity. If one wishes to be respected as a lady one must conduct herself as such. The thought crosses my mind that the gracious content of your commentary might cause your advice be called into question as to its value in sorority recruitment.

I am more than willing to stipulate that my point of view might well have very limited value in this issue, although my sister tells me that my input was a good call. She tells me that because of the very limited time available for the chapter to get to know a prospective new member the candidate must be careful to project her persona in every respect in the most positive way.

So, as limited as the value of my comment might be, my original submission stands as posted.

The deal is that your "advice" is basically worthless, especially since you have to qualify it and ask for reinforcement. You also come across extremely pretentious.

As to why girls comment on guys threads without getting called out:
1. Sometimes we do get called out
2. Guys rush just isn't as systematic and complicated as girls rush, with few exceptions.
3. Many girls here have actively participated (on the Fraternity side) of rush...with even fewer exceptions.than #2, no guys have actively participated in girl's rush.

Back on topic: love the boots, love boots with dresses, agree on the dress being too summery anywhere where boots would be in season.

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

The deal is that your "advice" is basically worthless, especially since you have to qualify it and ask for reinforcement. You also come across extremely pretentious.

As to why girls comment on guys threads without getting called out:
1. Sometimes we do get called out
2. Guys rush just isn't as systematic and complicated as girls rush, with few exceptions.
3. Many girls here have actively participated (on the Fraternity side) of rush...with even fewer exceptions.than #2, no guys have actively participated in girl's rush.

AlphaFrog,
I would suggest that your comment is not 'the deal'. It is that in your opinion my 'advice' is basically worthless. Very well, I have no argument with your opinion. I just don't happen to agree with it. My 'advice' was offered constructively and seems to be supported by several further comments from later posters. As to qualifying it and asking for reinforcement it seems to me that seeking concensus or inviting differing views hardly establishes the 'worthlessness' of my observations but rather attempts to ensure the usefulness of my input.
I don't recall saying anything about girls not being called out. I recall pointing out that it is apparently standard practice for 'girls' to comment on guy centric threads and issues and therefore it seemed appropriate that the correlary would hold true as well. As to the differences between fraternity and sorority rush and the degrees of cross participation therein, I fail to see the relevance of your argument in addressing whether or not it is a good idea to wear a specific outfit for a specific rush activity.
As to my being pretentious, I'm sorry if I seem that way to you, but would you really want a 34 year old lawyer to come off as an inarticulate adolescent?
I note that many CG regulars are in their 30s and come off a bit more polished than teenaged undergraduates or overaged wannabe kids, but I don't really think that qualifies as pretentious. On the contrary, I submit that acting one's age and drawing on one's experience seems to me to be a valid approach.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

As to my being pretentious, I'm sorry if I seem that way to you, but would you really want a 34 year old lawyer to come off as an inarticulate adolescent?
I note that many CG regulars are in their 30s and come off a bit more polished than teenaged undergraduates or overaged wannabe kids, but I don't really think that qualifies as pretentious. On the contrary, I submit that acting one's age and drawing on one's experience seems to me to be a valid approach.

Just because one is "Polished" or "articulate" doesn't necessarily mean one must revert to the writing style of one CS Lewis.

[barbino]

I've seen people give unsolicited opinions on GC for far worse subjects than a guy giving a PNM his opinion on recruitment clothing. OK, so maybe recruitment is one of the times when we ladies don't dress to impress the male species. I still feel that dekeguy had every right to give his opinon.

I have loved all of the dresses posted in this thread -- especially those from Dubai Sis and ree-xi. I think that the OP has gotten some valuable information on what to consider while choosing recruitment clothes.

[VandalSquirrel]

If I were going to a wedding this fall in Northern California I'd consider some of these, however what I'd truly wear depends on the venue, time of day, and the personality of the couple/style of the wedding.

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/adrianna...esultback=6816

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/js-colle...esultback=2794

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/adrianna...esultback=4618

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/patra-il...esultback=7240

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/patra-bo...esultback=1710

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...D2%26spc%3D156

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...D2%26spc%3D156

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...D1%26spc%3D156

I want this dress, and I could wear it to some weddings in my social life, but probably not for pref. Who am I kidding, I'd probably have worn this to pref because that's just how I roll, and I'd turn it. http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/aidan-ma...-8000017-0-1-2

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Just because one is "Polished" or "articulate" doesn't necessarily mean one must revert to the writing style of one CS Lewis.

Please note that my 'Polished' comment referred to 'thirty-something' GCers in general. I do aspire to be 'articulate' as it is afterall rather stock in trade for a lawyer.
Since the late CS Lewis, DPhil, DLitt, etc. predeceased me by quite a few years I doubt if it would be possible to 'revert' to his writing style, unless one put stock in reincarnation. If, however, my writing style suggests his abilities with the English, inter alia, language then I am highly complimented and grateful for your comment to that effect.


Side thought, Quo usque tandem...

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

AlphaFrog,

I note that many GC regulars are in their 30s and come off a bit more polished than teenaged undergraduates or overaged wannabe kids, but I don't really think that qualifies as pretentious. On the contrary, I submit that acting one's age and drawing on one's experience seems to me to be a valid approach.

There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!

This begins to be a bit absurd. The phrase was "pond life" (mildly negative but very different meaning) and it was my sister's comment. According to the criticisms heard today it seems to me that as she is a woman and a Greek alumna she is fully qualified to make such a comment. It might be helpful if quoted phrases are accurately quoted and attributed to their originator. If the comment seems pretentious I suggest you read a few dozen comments on a few dozen threads by a number of ladies where the phrase 'pond life' would be seen mild and not in the least pretentious. Its all in the context but I would suggest that one should read the original comment before responding to something that was not said in the manner implied.

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!

Does anyone read what was actually said? The quote was "pond life" not "pond scum". These have very different meanings, and by the way, the comment was my sister's, a Greek alumna, who would seem to me to be well qualified to offer her opinion.