Asians rushing for UPC sorority?

[longhornlove]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Really? I looked at most of them, and I saw one non-white member, in several photos. If the OP's friend looked at the websites, then that may have been enough to make her worry.

I think that's what really started to worry her. I just feel awful cause there's nothing I can do. I appreciate all the ladies replying to this threat, but I'm still a little uncertain on what's trying to be said. I'm sorry if I insult anyone and I know that potential member selection is confidential, but like MysticCat said, I was actually asking about what goes on in reality? Does being a minority give you a disadvantage? She doesn't have the obvious All American Girl beauty, but she's beautiful in her own way. I'm worried they won't give her a chance because of that

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by longhornlove

I think that's what really started to worry her. I just feel awful cause there's nothing I can do. I appreciate all the ladies replying to this threat, but I'm still a little uncertain on what's trying to be said. I'm sorry if I insult anyone and I know that potential member selection is confidential, but like MysticCat said, I was actually asking about what goes on in reality? Does being a minority give you a disadvantage? She doesn't have the obvious All American Girl beauty, but she's beautiful in her own way. I'm worried they won't give her a chance because of that

It varies by chapter because it varies by the people who make the decisions. There are people in ALL of our organizations who want to keep the demographics the way they are. A couple of sprinkles will be seen here and there but the overall demographics will intentionally not change.

Whenever you hear people say "I saw 2 in a photo...I swear I did...," you need to RUN! LOL. Being "spotted" is not only hilarious, it also means nothing. I completely understand the responses in this thread. However, spotting people in photos or knowing chapters where there are a few minorities (note: I get seen all of the time as one of the few minorities in my professional organizations---that makes them feel diverse, yet my experiences in at least one of these organizations has been WOMP WOMP at best) always makes me chuckle.

We already know that none of our organizations officially discriminate on the basis of race and ethnicity. As others have said in this thread, that doesn't erase what happens at some chapters. More importantly, there simply aren't a whole lot of non-whites PNMs in the first place so of course there won't be a whole lot of non-white members. The same goes for NPHC--there aren't a whole lot of nonBlack/nonAfrican Diaspora aspirants so it is no shock that whites and those not of the African Diaspora will only be "spotted" in a few photos here and there.

That isn't automatically discrimination. If people don't want to be members for WHATEVER reasons, they don't want to be members. But, since discrimination is also based on outcome and not intent, the lack thereof can have a discriminatory impact if there is a nonstop vibe that makes non-whites not want to join NPC; non-African Diaspora not want to join NPHC; etc etc etc etc.

At this point, this thread is silly with people spotting Asians in photos and stuff. I recommend "your friend" either try or not try. Enough already.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It varies by chapter because it varies by the people who make the decisions. There are people in ALL of our organizations who want to keep the demographics the way they are. A couple of sprinkles will be seen here and there but the overall demographics will intentionally not change.

Whenever you hear people say "I saw 2 in a photo...I swear I did...," you need to RUN! LOL. Being "spotted" is not only hilarious, it also means nothing. I completely understand the responses in this thread. However, spotting people in photos or knowing chapters where there are a few minorities (note: I get seen all of the time as one of the few minorities in my professional organizations---that makes them feel diverse, yet my experiences in at least one of these organizations has been WOMP WOMP at best) always makes me chuckle.

We already know that none of our organizations officially discriminate on the basis of race and ethnicity. As others have said in this thread, that doesn't erase what happens at some chapters. More importantly, there simply aren't a whole lot of non-whites PNMs in the first place so of course there won't be a whole lot of non-white members. The same goes for NPHC--there aren't a whole lot of nonBlack/nonAfrican Diaspora aspirants so it is no shock that whites and those not of the African Diaspora will only be "spotted" in a few photos here and there.

That isn't automatically discrimination. If people don't want to be members for WHATEVER reasons, they don't want to be members. But, since discrimination is also based on outcome and not intent, the lack thereof can have a discriminatory impact if there is a nonstop vibe that makes non-whites not want to join NPC; non-African Diaspora not want to join NPHC; etc etc etc etc.

At this point, this thread is silly with people spotting Asians in photos and stuff. I recommend "your friend" either try or not try. Enough already.

i can appreciate your feelings, and i have to admit that i felt really silly purposely looking for certain members. if i look at a sorority website, i am looking at all the happy faces, and what that group has accomplished, not for specific faces. but i am willing to feel silly(and maybe appear silly), if it gives the young woman confidence to pursue something she says she wants to.

[DrPhil]

If it was so easy to gain confidence, that young lady should have been searching websites on her own. And once these young ladies get to campus, they need to ask where are these non-white members around campus. Seeing them around campus (or not) will speak volumes over searching websites for them.

Anywho, her friend needs to either try it or not try it. Find her best fit and don't assume that "the sorority with the most Asian women" is the best fit.

[33girl]

Was she born in [insert Asian country here], or have her parents/grandparents always lived in the US and she was born here?

Sorry to be so politically incorrect, but people do look at the two differently.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Was she born in [insert Asian country here], or have her parents/grandparents always lived in the US and she was born here?

Sorry to be so politically incorrect, but people do look at the two differently.

How is your question politically incorrect?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

How is your question politically incorrect?

Implying there's a difference. Is it politically incorrect to think that's politically incorrect?