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Old 05-10-2011, 10:05 PM
Regina.George Regina.George is offline
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My biggest issue with the whole situation is that, whatever KBG's intentions, as there is no associate membership, or recognition by the NPC of up and coming national GLOs, their chapters continue to be 'fair game.' They could have 14 chapters and 18 months later have a chapter picked off by an NPC. It's disrespectful IMO on an organizational level.
No one was "picking off" their chapters. They weren't properly caring for those chapters and the exasperated members eventually decided to look elsewhere. KBG didn't even have an operational web site for several years and their "new and improved" site is still incomplete. I'm going to say it: here's a history there of neglect and it isn't a matter of the poor little chapters being lured away by the big NPC national siren's song. I sincerely hope KBG has gotten their act together and can look forward to a thriving future, but they had some very dark days there. I don't want to see any Greek organization fail, but like with any relationship, you have to take care of your people.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:09 PM
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No one was "picking off" their chapters. They weren't properly caring for those chapters and the exasperated members eventually decided to look elsewhere. KBG didn't even have an operational web site for several years and their "new and improved" site is still incomplete. I'm going to say it: here's a history there of neglect and it isn't a matter of the poor little chapters being lured away by the big NPC national siren's song. I sincerely hope KBG has gotten their act together and can look forward to a thriving future, but they had some very dark days there. I don't want to see any Greek organization fail, but like with any relationship, you have to take care of your people.
That is true...BUT, if they were a chapter of Pi Phi or AOII, they would be S.O.L. No other NPC could come in to rescue them and turn them into a new chapter of say Sigma Kappa or Phi Mu.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:24 PM
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That is true...BUT, if they were a chapter of Pi Phi or AOII, they would be S.O.L. No other NPC could come in to rescue them and turn them into a new chapter of say Sigma Kappa or Phi Mu.
Oh for sure, but an organization is not likely to get to the numbers and history required to join the NPC if they can't take care of and nurture the chapters they already have. (I mean that as a general statement for any group.)
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:44 PM
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No one was "picking off" their chapters. They weren't properly caring for those chapters and the exasperated members eventually decided to look elsewhere. KBG didn't even have an operational web site for several years and their "new and improved" site is still incomplete. I'm going to say it: here's a history there of neglect and it isn't a matter of the poor little chapters being lured away by the big NPC national siren's song. I sincerely hope KBG has gotten their act together and can look forward to a thriving future, but they had some very dark days there. I don't want to see any Greek organization fail, but like with any relationship, you have to take care of your people.
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It's always the fat uglies with horrible personality disorders who wouldn't stand a chance of getting a bid to even the lowest tier chapter at a competitive school who feel they are the expert on what Greek life should be.
This means you have zero respect in this conversation. None. So buhbye.
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That is true...BUT, if they were a chapter of Pi Phi or AOII, they would be S.O.L. No other NPC could come in to rescue them and turn them into a new chapter of say Sigma Kappa or Phi Mu.
Exactly. I'm not saying chapters would never close, or go local, or even go local and later affiliate/be absorbed, but the incentive for active members to make that vote is removed. And ultimately the troll's point above doesn't matter. NPCs fail to take care of chapters well and lose them all the time. But they're shuttered, and given the opportunity to rebuild later. Other national chapters don't get that respect and I think it's something that should change.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:48 PM
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This means you have zero respect in this conversation. None. So buhbye.


Exactly. I'm not saying chapters would never close, or go local, or even go local and later affiliate/be absorbed, but the incentive for active members to make that vote is removed. And ultimately the troll's point above doesn't matter. NPCs fail to take care of chapters well and lose them all the time. But they're shuttered, and given the opportunity to rebuild later. Other national chapters don't get that respect and I think it's something that should change.
Yet Petunia continues to respond to me.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:13 AM
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I'm REALLY hoping I'm overthinking this and you aren't implying that NPC orgs have no history, tradition, legacy, or place in the community,
A goat knows better. So should you.
WTF?
Just a few posts after the one you responded to, sigmadiva, in response to IrishLake, made clear that she wasn't implying that NPC orgs have no history, tradition, legacy or place in the community.
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For the NPHC, it is not just joining a sorority per se, it is seen as becoming part of a legacy in an org that has very strong family traditions, and in some cases, expectations.
This can also be very NPC.
Yeah, I know. I just did not know how else to describe it.
Hence, IrishLake's response to you -- sigmadiva had already addressed your concern.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:29 PM
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Regardless of whether KBG nationals was a giant box of hair, IMO from what people on here said - including people included with those 2 chapters - the women in the chapters didn't seem to understand the gravity of what they were doing and if they didn't, the older and wiser NPCs colonizing them should have told them. It's the same as if you're pledging a chapter that closes and take a bid from another place. Yes you are entitled and allowed to do that and no you don't have to say anything to your ex-soon-to-be chapter, but it's the good and kind thing to do.

Dr Phil & sigmadiva - I read this on a local mb the other night and was waiting for a GC discussion to slip it into...this seems as good a place as any.

a lotta people think that's the end of racism, when white kids treat black kids as pigmented whites.
which is extremely similar to 'gays against marriage'; we're not the same and we don't want to be.


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