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[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I understand if you have never heard that use. Since you can't walk through life with me, I'll just give an Internet-based example:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/U-of-C-to-Let-Male-Female-Students-Sleep-Together.html

If this attempt at sexual connotation makes coed as a noun still offensive, that still isn't the same as the claim that coed is only/100%/always/with no exceptions used for women.

And since I was in a blessed Seder all evening....

An article in The Jewish Advocate titled "Muslim and Jewish Coeds Under Sukkah;" and an article in Jewish Exponent titled "Israel Trip Preps Coeds for Advocacy" These articles are not only talking about female college students.

Interesting, although not necessarily representative of the spoken/written use by the average individual, as headlines are written to different standards. So, now I've seen it twice (not reading through jstor atm). However, beyond "saving space" there's no actual need to use that word here, whether it's offensive or not.

That was figurative.

Well, fair enough, take my response figuratively then.

"Over 50." Correct, there are more women's liberal arts colleges than men's liberal arts colleges (which could also contribute to some people thinking of women at co-education institutions as "coeds" in the 21st century). All-male is all-male regardless of whether they are religious or non-religious institutions. For the record, there are actually less than 50 women's colleges if only considering 4-year liberal arts.

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Including seminaries doesn't really make sense in your comparison if only because enrollment wise, they're probably irrelevant and many are unaccredited. But ok, if you insist. Wiki says over sixty women's colleges, primarily liberal arts. I think this is an apples to oranges comparison.

Now if you want to point out the sexism inherent in many religious sects, looking at the seminaries - primarily RCC or Jewish per wiki - makes sense.

They're a reflection of the religious beliefs of that group rather than a reflection of the access to education for women as a whole. Sects that allow women preachers/pastors/priests/rabbis have already integrated their seminaries, assuming they have any. Now sure, historically, it's the same sexism at the root of it all, but it's overbroadening the discussion.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

So, now I've seen it twice....

As long as you can no longer claim that you've never heard of it.

And I can't claim that I've never heard of "coed as a noun" being used in an offensive context or people being offended by it. That's despite the fact that people in my real life professional and personal encounters (feminists included) use "coed as a noun" for the reasons I discussed earlier, and also to discuss both men and women, without negative connotation.

/so let it be written, so let it be done

Originally Posted by Drolefille

But ok, if you insist.

Correct. The purpose and perceived utility behind uni-sex institutions is the same regardless of people's opinions of their religious or non-religious foundations; accreditation or non-accreditation; relevance; and size of student population.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

As long you can no longer claim that you've never heard of it.



Correct. The purpose behind the existence of these uni-sex institutions is the same regardless of people's opinions of their religious or non-religious; and accredited or non-accredited foundations.

(I still consider its use to describe male students to be so unusual as to be irrelevant)
Actually I disagree, I don't consider seminaries to be educationally equivalent to other schools and not at all comparable to say Loyola or Liberty University. Additionally, accreditation matters as evidenced by the school shutting down following loss of it's accreditation. And using them as an example of how men's education is still privileged misses the mark in my opinion.

[DrPhil]

And somehow there is still a reason they (were or) are uni-sex.

[Drolefille]

Uh, right, the sexism in the religion that reflects (and magnifies) the sexism in society where was this unacknowledged? And how does it relate to the use of the co-ed?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And how does it relate to the use of the co-ed?

Uh...I was replying to naraht's post. You were replying to mine. This is all very straightforward if you're perplexed. LOL

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Uh...I was replying to naraht's post. You were replying to mine. This is all very straightforward if you're perplexed. LOL

Sorry, I'm relating it back to your original comment, your #3. I was as perplexed by the relevance then as I am now, not confused about the train of the converstion as a whole