Quota Additions at Super Competitive Schools

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

Our women have no idea who falls where just that there might be 1 or 2 women who they are not overly fond of. I know that if QA was not done they would not be in the Chapter, but they only have an idea that they were the QA's. The QA's come on the bid list with no special recognition just listed with all the other women.

I have a hard time wrapping my mind around a high recruiting strength chapter not loving everyone on their bid list, and most likely plenty more that they had to cut due to RFM. Unless there's drama on an individual level. Even then, usually the problems high recruiting strength chapters have is separating good from great, especially after just one round, so I'd think that even if there was drama between a member and a PNM, she'd be axed ASAP. You can to search for reasons to cut women. High recruiting strength chapters have to make the biggest cuts, and are drawing from the top of the pile.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I have a hard time wrapping my mind around a high recruiting strength chapter not loving everyone on their bid list, and most likely plenty more that they had to cut due to RFM. Unless there's drama on an individual level. Even then, usually the problems high recruiting strength chapters have is separating good from great, especially after just one round, so I'd think that even if there was drama between a member and a PNM, she'd be axed ASAP. You can to search for reasons to cut women. High recruiting strength chapters have to make the biggest cuts, and are drawing from the top of the pile.

Seriously. The chapter I advise would typically love to offer a bid to most of the PNMs who attend our round BEFORE pref. It's incredibly difficult to cut down to the number we invite back for pref. I just can't fathom a "strong recruiting" chapter having women at pref that they don't like.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel

Seriously. The chapter I advise would typically love to offer a bid to most of the PNMs who attend our round BEFORE pref. It's incredibly difficult to cut down to the number we invite back for pref. I just can't fathom a "strong recruiting" chapter having women at pref that they don't like.

It's sounding like it's not really that they don't like them but that they blame the QAs for the absence of their rush crush. Which means that someone is not protecting the bid list, and someone else is not explaining what QAs are to chapter members and verbally hitting them upside the head for being idiots and rude about their NMs. NMs who were on their bid list, and who WANT to be there.

[AOII Angel]

Oh, I am quite sure that the issue is always one of misunderstanding. No one knows who the QAs are, but women will pick out who they think they are because that's who THEY wouldn't have wanted. Catty women can find reasons to be unhappy no matter what perfect situation you give them. Discovering that not everyone is perfectly happy on bid day in the top chapters shouldn't be a complete surprise. The grass is always greener on the other side.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Oh, I am quite sure that the issue is always one of misunderstanding. No one knows who the QAs are, but women will pick out who they think they are because that's who THEY wouldn't have wanted. Catty women can find reasons to be unhappy no matter what perfect situation you give them. Discovering that not everyone is perfectly happy on bid day in the top chapters shouldn't be a complete surprise. The grass is always greener on the other side.

However, the comments that started this conversation came from a) an advisor and b) indicated specifically that these were women from "way down under" and were "not a blessing."

THAT is where there's a serious breakdown in the process. Isn't it the advisor's job to straighten the actives out - whether redirecting their attitudes or correcting their creation of a bidlist that contains PNMs they do not want. I'd started to give it some slack, because of later comments, but the original comment highlights the problem here.

[AXOrushadvisor]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

However, the comments that started this conversation came from a) an advisor and b) indicated specifically that these were women from "way down under" and were "not a blessing."

THAT is where there's a serious breakdown in the process. Isn't it the advisor's job to straighten the actives out - whether redirecting their attitudes or correcting their creation of a bidlist that contains PNMs they do not want. I'd started to give it some slack, because of later comments, but the original comment highlights the problem here.

No, my job is not to create a bidlist that contains only PNM's that they want. It is not my Chapter nor am I an active member in it. I have no voting rights nor would I want to. I'm there to Advise them. Nor is it my job to straighten out the actives or their votes. There is a system in place that is used across the country. My job is to make sure they follow the rules of the voting system. My job is NOT to manipulate who they will invite back. When I say there may be girls on the bid list that become members that are from way down on the bidlist it doesn't mean they are "disliked" it simply means that if there were no quota additions they would not have made the cut. I probably shouldn't have used the term "not a blessing" in conjunction with QA's because frankly that term could be used on several of the girls not necessarily a QA. In fact, I couldn't even tell you at this point who was a QA from fall unless I looked at the list.

You are right, if they are invited to Pref some one some where liked them enough for them to be invited. Again the active members have no idea who is a QA because they do not see the bid list only the Advisors do.