Quota Additions at Super Competitive Schools

[OleMissGlitter]

I agree with you all and what Barbie originally posted.

Do you all think that those chapters who do struggle to "keep" their new members after Bid Day need to step up their NM Education programs? If you are "awkward alpha" shouldn’t you have the best NM Program on campus?

I have also witnessed firsthand where women who did not get a bid to their first choice end up very happy. Obviously every PNM is different. I do disagree with forcing a PNM to attend a pref party. However, I think most Panhellenic Councils really push the "maximize your options" advice.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

I agree with you all and what Barbie originally posted.

Do you all think that those chapters who do struggle to "keep" their new members after Bid Day need to step up their NM Education programs? If you are "awkward alpha" shouldn’t you have the best NM Program on campus?
I have also witnessed firsthand where women who did not get a bid to their first choice end up very happy. Obviously every PNM is different. I do disagree with forcing a PNM to attend a pref party. However, I think most Panhellenic Councils really push the "maximize your options" advice.

I think so.

Retention is key.

I think many of the Awkward Alpha type groups don't focus on it enough.

For example: I've heard many stories of girls being really bummed about getting a bid to ABC, but perking up when they get to Bid Day and everyone is SO HAPPY to see them.

If you show up to ABC and the actives are all about their recruitment results and not enjoying themselves, you are automatically going to panic and think you made the wrong decision to accept.

I think it's important to engage the NMs as quickly as possible and show them that women on campus are PROUD to be ABC.

Of course at some schools, retention is easier said than done. If you're coming from a place with more fliud reputation structures (ex: a pledge class can really change a reputation.)

[dukedg]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I think it's important to engage the NMs as quickly as possible and show them that women on campus are PROUD to be ABC.

How do you show NMs this if the women are not proud to be ABCs and the campus/greek groups do not treat them with respect?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by dukedg

How do you show NMs this if the women are not proud to be ABCs and the campus/greek groups do not treat them with respect?

That's the part I don't know the answer to.

I DO think that on some level you really do just have to decide that you're going to be happy at ABC. That is also easier said than done.

[carnation]

I once started a thread here when a member asked me how they could get new members to be happy with their bids bc they were always having to console new members on Bid Day. I have no clue what it was called but lots of GCers posted some good stuff about how their chapters dealt with it.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by carnation

I once started a thread here when a member asked me how they could get new members to be happy with their bids bc they were always having to console new members on Bid Day. I have no clue what it was called but lots of GCers posted some good stuff about how their chapters dealt with it.

This one?
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=88328

[Barbie's_Rush]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

^^ How many PNMs understand QAs vs. the overall "maximize your options" mantra? I'd guess very few actually "get" it.

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

probably not. i would wager that the majority of recruitment counselors don't understand it(or the sip situation) either.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Yeah we were using RFM throughout my time at school and we had the "OMG DO NOT SUICIDE" stuff and the general "maximize your options" stuff, but nothing more complex. Most actives didn't get it either.

Oh I didn't mean to imply that PNMs were being told any details about QAs etc. Just anything from the implication that you wouldn't have a chance of getting any bid if you didn't put all three choices down or your chances at the chapters you wanted were somehow better if you put all three down to OMG THE COMPUTER WILL TOTALLY THROW YOUR NAME OUT IF IT SEES YOU DON'T LIST ALL THREE!!!!! I don't think very many people on either side understand it at all. I certainly didn't before I started reading GC.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

This one?
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=88328

Yes!!! Boy, you're good, I couldn't even think of key words in the title! Thanks!