States that don't have chapters

[dnall]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Please speak for your fraternity only.

This is in the ATO section of the forum, so... what's the issue?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dnall

This is in the ATO section of the forum, so... what's the issue?

This is also a public forum, meaning all threads are visible to everyone.

Unless you are a member of other organizations and have experienced their rituals, you cannot say that "west coast chapters of any fraternity" don't take things seriously.

[dnall]

Greek life in the west sucks. It's a different thing completely. Unless you've spent some time around it in the south or on the east cost and to a lesser extent some places in the central US, you really don't understand what I'm saying.

In any case, this is an ATO asking about expansion in a geographic area where most locations are very weak. Nationals will try to keep things geographically balanced to some degree, but ultimately it's a business. You want big strong stable chapters with higher percentages of alumni that stay involved, preferably from schools where they have a better chance at doing well in life.

Why would I support going to a school with flat to declining recruiting numbers that support average chapters of 30 guys? Especially when I can go a dozen other places that will jump quickly to 70-90 guys and have strong regional alumni support.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dnall

Greek life in the west sucks.

Not the case in my organization, so again, speak for your fraternity only.

[dnall]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Not the case in my organization, so again, speak for your fraternity only.

Again, if I'm speaking in the forum dedicated to my organization, then I am giving my experienced and knowledgeable opinion about and from the perspective of my organization. That should be the natural assumption based on WHERE this post is.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dnall

Again, if I'm speaking in the forum dedicated to my organization, then I am giving my experienced and knowledgeable opinion about and from the perspective of my organization. That should be the natural assumption based on WHERE this post is.

And WHERE the post is = public message board.

I think I might have picked up on a few things during my 8 years on this board. Don't speak definitively on organizations other than your own and you'll be fine. Simple as that.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

And WHERE the post is = public message board.

I think I might have picked up on a few things during my 8 years on this board. Don't speak definitively on organizations other than your own and you'll be fine. Simple as that.

And if he doesn't, then you, too, will be fine. Let it go.

[dnall]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Not the case in my organization, so again, speak for your fraternity only.

Look. This particular section of the forum is about ATO ONLY. In posting in this location, by definition I'm talking about only my organization. Why are you commenting on things that don't involve your organization? I haven't strayed into your organization's area to comment on your internal factors.

I've been involved with fraternities all over the country for more than half as long as yours has existed. I didn't mention your org or say anything directly disrespectful about you or it. I think I'm entitled to my opinion and you're welcome to disagree with it.

If you'd care to continue that conversation, I'd prefer you do so by private message.