States that don't have chapters
 

Only 9 states don't have chapters. California only has six. We need more chapters in the Pacific and in states like Arizona.

We have two here in Colorado. I believe there was once four.

Currently at:
Colorado State -Fort Collins, CO
School of Mines -Golden, CO

I believe there once was chapters at University of Colorado - Boulder, CO (campus doesn't recognized greek life) and one in Denver somewhere.

Pardon the crash, but Boulder definitely recognizes Greek life and has quite a large Greek community. I don't know anything about ATO @ CU, but you really shouldn't make huge assumptions like that.

While thebigghost is not entirely correct, Boulder actually does not recognize its IFC Fraternities because they refused to sign a university agreement.

http://www.colorado.edu/greeks/office/community.html

Oh, insert foot in mouth! Sorry, I stand corrected.

Thank you! :)


Exactly. Our school isn't affiliated with IFC or any of the Fraternities, but is definitely a part of the Sororities. Our greek system is larger than most people think it is...

I don't know how many "pacific" chapters you've visited of any fraternity, but they are just not the same. Greek life in a lot of places in those regions is not strong. Many of those chapters don't care much about the ritual. I would prefer not to expand strongly in those directions. Not when there is so much other fertile territory elsewhere. Especially in places we've had chapters before.

Please speak for your fraternity only.

This is in the ATO section of the forum, so... what's the issue?

This is also a public forum, meaning all threads are visible to everyone.

Unless you are a member of other organizations and have experienced their rituals, you cannot say that "west coast chapters of any fraternity" don't take things seriously.

Greek life in the west sucks. It's a different thing completely. Unless you've spent some time around it in the south or on the east cost and to a lesser extent some places in the central US, you really don't understand what I'm saying.

In any case, this is an ATO asking about expansion in a geographic area where most locations are very weak. Nationals will try to keep things geographically balanced to some degree, but ultimately it's a business. You want big strong stable chapters with higher percentages of alumni that stay involved, preferably from schools where they have a better chance at doing well in life.

Why would I support going to a school with flat to declining recruiting numbers that support average chapters of 30 guys? Especially when I can go a dozen other places that will jump quickly to 70-90 guys and have strong regional alumni support.

Not the case in my organization, so again, speak for your fraternity only.

Again, if I'm speaking in the forum dedicated to my organization, then I am giving my experienced and knowledgeable opinion about and from the perspective of my organization. That should be the natural assumption based on WHERE this post is.

And WHERE the post is = public message board.

I think I might have picked up on a few things during my 8 years on this board. Don't speak definitively on organizations other than your own and you'll be fine. Simple as that.

And if he doesn't, then you, too, will be fine. Let it go. :)