Philadelphia abortion doctor accused of murdering patient, newborns

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Maybe I have an active imagination, because both ripping the fetus apart and stabbing/cutting it with scissors give me shivers.

I guess. Generally I don't imagine myself doing things I hear about in the news unless they're things that I would like to do. And I have a morbid sense of amusement, so I really can't relate.

I mean general anethesia, which takes us back to the line we're drawing. If there's a chance the fetus feels pain (and there is), I can't stomach the idea of hurting it. That's the second of two reasons I haven't ever been able to bring myself to do it.

Well, generally you don't anesthetize people unless they need it due to the risks involved. That can include mental health reasons, that's why sedation dentists on the radio here are doing such good business. But though no one actually enjoys the idea of causing any living thing harm, humans do so all the time. If anesthetizing the mother completely increases the risks to her, then the risk/benefit may not be wise unless the woman cannot be calm enough during the procedure without it.

Do you eat meat? While we can never be 100% certain, science tells us that the fetus wouldn't be able to feel pain in any way similar to that of a fully formed human. The reason I bring other animals into the discussion at all is because a fetus' nervous system is THAT underdeveloped.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Do you eat meat? While we can never be 100% certain, science tells us that the fetus wouldn't be able to feel pain in any way similar to that of a fully formed human. The reason I bring other animals into the discussion at all is because a fetus' nervous system is THAT underdeveloped.

Animals feel pain too, but I don't place any animal's life above that of a human/fetus, so the connection isn't as relevant to me.

I've had the opportunity to kill animals with my own hands for meat, so I'm not entirely distanced from what it means to take life. It's important to me that death (animal or fetus) is as quick and painless as possible.