Philadelphia abortion doctor accused of murdering patient, newborns

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Considering "partial-birth abortion" isn't an actual procedure, which was the major complaint about the bill banning it, and every court in the US would consider THIS murder, I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse to try and make a point. It doesn't suit you.

Not at all. I have a lot of trouble wrapping my mind around the concepts that we're dealing with. For instance, on one hand, murdering a pregnant woman can trigger two counts of murder. On the other hand, abortion is legal. I have the same issue with "fetus in = abortion" while "fetus out = murder."

Analogy fail. Contrasting the accepted procedure to one considered inappropriate and gruesome was the point he was making. Accepted procedure isn't inherently good, but you have to actually break it down on medical grounds not because it sounds icky. Snipping the spine of a newborn is murder, plain and simple.

Now, it is. My point continues to be that the reaction from the onlookers is curious.

Do you think there may be a reason why this isn't done? Medical reason that is.

Absolutely.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Can you guarantee the safety of a mother whose fetus is anesthetized? You realize they share a circulatory system through the placenta, right? You're arguing with a medical professional about an ideal but not grounding it in facts.

Riiiight...and mothers in higher end facilities have been known to be anesthetized. We just haven't decided to make that the norm. It's not all that far-fetched of an ideal.