Bisexual Student Says He Was Harassed by Fraternity

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

..... WHERE WOULD MINORITY RIGHTS BE IF THE MAJORITY DIDN'T FEEL SYMPATHY!!! OMG!!!

As I understand the Civil Rights movement in this country, most of the majority did not feel sympathy, hence the KKK and Jim Crow laws. It was the result of much hard work, labor, dedication and literally sacrificing of lives of minorities, and a few majority legislators who had the ability to see the benefit (for lack of a better word) that allowed Civil Rights to happen.

I think you are making a real stretch here.....

[agzg]

Can I just predict the thread now and save us all a lot of work?

One side: "OMG, he totally should have predicted that he would be harassed for being bisexual. He deserved it, or at least some of the blame."

Other side: "No one expects to be humiliated by a group he or she thought they were a part of in front of an auditorium full of people. A person cannot be responsible for the way others harass them."

Random poster: "This seems like victim blaming."

Kevin: "Something about rape."

First group: "Well there are things people can do to prevent blah blah blah share the blame."

Other group: *collective facepalm*

Everyone (but Kevin, who sits back and watches with glee the carnage he oh so obviously caused): bitch bitch bitch moan moan moan bitch moan bitch

Everyone again: "I need a nap."





You're welcome, I just saved us days of posting.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

As I understand the Civil Rights movement in this country, most of the majority did not feel sympathy, hence the KKK and Jim Crow laws. It was the result of much hard work, labor, dedication and literally sacrificing of lives of minorities, and a few majority legislators who had the ability to see the benefit (for lack of a better word) that allowed Civil Rights to happen.

I think you are making a real stretch here.....

That went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over your head.

Just shut up.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

You're welcome, I just saved us days of posting.

No.

[agzg]

It's just gonna end up in passive aggressive remarks in other threads about how "some people" do this or that. My vote is that "some people" who want to throw around "some people" remarks like they're some kind of martyr realize that the only thing they need to do to stop their martyrdom is to stop acting like some kind of demented victim.

How's that for victim blaming?

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

ALERT THE PRESS AND CALL THE CORONER!!! EE-BO FEELS NO SYMPATHY!!! WHERE WOULD MINORITY RIGHTS BE IF THE MAJORITY DIDN'T FEEL SYMPATHY!!! OMG!!!

About where they would be if the "majority" really did feel true sympathy. And it would be a shame if they did because every human being on this planet deserves a lot more customary consideration than that which sympathy has to offer.

I think it is possible in this- and other- situations for the the person who pledged and the organization in question to both be in the wrong.

The young man who is the subject of this discussion has far greater challenges to face in his life than the acceptance of a student organization.

He made a bad decision. He is partially at fault for it. My message is walk away and move on realizing that others need to learn the lesson for themselves, or that he needs to stand up on his own and make a statement.

Bringing his family into it is not what a man does in this particular case. Allowing your family- especially your mother- to be dragged into it is especially disgusting to me.

When and if the day comes, I will glady fight a battle in the public press against someone who has done wrong by me. But I sure as hell would not allow my mother's upset over my situation to become part of the public story.

That is the difference between being a man and being a loser- and it is the one thing that most prompted me to comment on this thread.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

About where they would be if the "majority" really did feel true sympathy. And it would be a shame if they did because every human being on this planet deserves a lot more customary consideration than that which sympathy has to offer.

That also went way over your head.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

Drolefille, that was also my first thought, but I chalked it up to apples and oranges until K_S also expressed confusion.

Yea, there's no way that Lambda Theta Phi would ask that. More than likely, it was something thought up by the chapter.

I'm a little confused, though, because of some of the wording in the article. It doesn't look like it was the Lambdas who were taunting him. It seems like it was members of the student body. I guess we'll have to wait for more info.

ETA: I just reread the article. He wasn't t initiated, so the taunting DID come from the Lambdas.

Originally Posted by EE-BO

Good question, but whatever the reason- it was the big hint he should have taken before pledging.

I particularly like how he and his family seem to have fallen apart over the fact he had to witness "pantomimed homosexual acts".

There is enough real hatred and oppression in the world to worry about- why should I care about a story like this?

The guy voluntarily joined an organization that was not essential to his well-being or future where he had plenty of advance warning that he was not going to fit in. I give him a lot of credit for being stupid- but that's about it.

Lambda Theta Phi is a big deal in the LGLO community. It's not a stretch for a Latino student to want to be a part of the organization. And fitting in at that chapter isn't always the concern of prospects.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Just shut up.

Because this bears repeating.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That also went way over your head.

Fill me in. I am not here to just argue- self-assured and set in my ways as I may seem to be, I am always open to learn.

This thread seemed like an open and shut case from my point of view. I was clearly wrong. It can only be good to understand why.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Lambda Theta Phi is a big deal in the LGLO community. It's not a stretch for a Latino student to want to be a part of the organization. And fitting in at that chapter isn't always the concern of prospects.

This is interesting. Are you saying that this GLO caters to LGLO students? If that is the case, then it seems from the facts presented in the article this is a rogue chapter or a bunch of guys with a bitingly sarcastic sense of humor who were madly misinterpreted (with the former seeming far more likely.)

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

And fitting in at that chapter isn't always the concern of prospects.

Such is the life of LGLO and BGLO aspirants who see the lifetime commitment beyond their college days.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Because this bears repeating.

Yeah I'm amused that both sigmadiva and EE-BO didn't grasp that I'm telling EE-BO, and other members of the majority, that his care or lack thereof doesn't matter.

[Senusret I]

I wrote the book on this situation.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

This is interesting. Are you saying that this GLO caters to LGLO students? If that is the case, then it seems from the facts presented in the article this is a rogue chapter or a bunch of guys with a bitingly sarcastic sense of humor who were madly misinterpreted (with the former seeming far more likely.)

Because in a non LGLO it would not be a rogue chapter? Seriously?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

This is interesting. Are you saying that this GLO caters to LGLO students? If that is the case, then it seems from the facts presented in the article this is a rogue chapter or a bunch of guys with a bitingly sarcastic sense of humor who were madly misinterpreted (with the former seeming far more likely.)

Lambda Theta Phi is often cited as the first LGLO. In terms of size, it's the second-largest LGLO, so it's far reaching.

FYI - I hope you know that LGLO = Latino GLO and not Lesbian/Gay Letter organization.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I wrote the book on this situation.

Lazarus plug?