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Old 01-19-2009, 08:09 AM
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Auburn student in ICU after fight at fraternity

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AUBURN, Ala. — An 18-year-old Auburn University student injured during a fight in the parking lot of a fraternity house remained in intensive care in Columbus, Ga., officials said Tuesday.

Auburn police and university officials have not released the student's name, but friends say Taylor Jones of Montgomery was injured in the fight between 1 and 2:30 a.m. Sunday.
http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/420742.html
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:42 AM
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I have never heard of "unsatisfactory condition" Typically, they say critical or guarded.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:57 PM
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According to JC [content deleted].

Seems he got what was coming to him.

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JC? JuicyCampus? That's your source?

Kevin, what's your policy about rumors and hearsay again?
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:12 PM
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JC? JuicyCampus? That's your source?

Kevin, what's your policy about rumors and hearsay again?
It's verboten. See policy.
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:09 PM
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Update January 26, 2009: Suit Filed, Warrant Issued

Excerpt from article on an Alabama paper's site:
The family of an Auburn University student who was injured at a fraternity house earlier this month filed suit Monday afternoon against the national fraternity, the local chapter and a fraternity member.
The suit was filed in Lee County Circuit Court by Beasley, Allen, Crow, Methvin, Portis & Miles of Montgomery. The suit, on behalf of student Taylor G. Jones, was filed in the name of his father, Michael G. Jones. Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity and the local chapter of the fraternity are named as defendants, as well as a student the law firm says is a fraternity member. . . .


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http://www.oanow.com/oan/news/local/...student/56383/

Also, station WTVM reports (excerpt):

. . . the Lee County District Attorney and the Auburn Police Department issued a warrant Monday morning for the fraternity member accused of assaulting him [i. e., Taylor Jones].

18-year-old Zachary Quillen, a member of the Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity, is being charged with Felony Assault in the 2nd Degree, stemming from the alleged incident back on January 11th. . . .

See the WTVM article at

http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=9734801

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Old 01-26-2009, 10:44 PM
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Haha Sig EPPPPPPPP!

Anyone know if this is a BMP chapter?
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:35 AM
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Haha Sig EPPPPPPPP!

Anyone know if this is a BMP chapter?

If it's not already, it will be.
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It's been a rough few months for Sig Ep's in the state of Alabama. My daughter is in a GLO at AU and this story just made me sick. What does BMP mean?
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What does BMP mean?
Balanced Man Program.
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:24 PM
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It's been a rough few months for Sig Ep's in the state of Alabama. My daughter is in a GLO at AU and this story just made me sick. What does BMP mean?
Death if you're in the SEC.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:28 PM
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If it's not already, it will be.
Hopefully nationals won't use this as an excuse to strong-arm another chapter into their god-awful program.

They should at least wait until the findings of any trial or suit. On a separate note, if its found that the fraternity and member in question are not at fault, or even that it is the plaintiff who is at fault, will the chapter have the opportunity to counter-sue for punitive damages?
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:07 PM
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On a separate note, if its found that the fraternity and member in question are not at fault, or even that it is the plaintiff who is at fault, will the chapter have the opportunity to counter-sue for punitive damages?
Probably not.

Theoretically, I could say "It could happen," but once these cases are dropped, they're dropped. More than likely, if the plaintiff here thinks he has a dog of a case, he settles for nuisance money (they call it an undisclosed sum) and the thing goes away.

As for getting BMP forced upon them, I'd by lying if I said I knew how that worked.
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:22 AM
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Probably not.

Theoretically, I could say "It could happen," but once these cases are dropped, they're dropped. More than likely, if the plaintiff here thinks he has a dog of a case, he settles for nuisance money (they call it an undisclosed sum) and the thing goes away.

As for getting BMP forced upon them, I'd by lying if I said I knew how that worked.
nationals has essentially a zero tolerance policy for any traditional chapter, they will use any excuse possible to force a chapter to convert to the balanced man program. if a chapter doesn't seem willing to make the change they simply do a "review" of the chapter in which they cleanse any members that wouldn't support the bmp.

It may seem wrong to bash our own nationals on our public forum but they deserve it. The dialogue has been going on within the fraternity for quite some time and it seems like they've won. Sadly, if (and when) they see that the bmp is a flawed idea it will likely have already ruined the fraternity.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:55 AM
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it will likely have already ruined the fraternity.
I don't know. It will certainly have fundamentally changed the character of Sig Ep. If that's what you mean by 'ruin,' then fair enough. I think fraternities are looking at national programming like BMP (as an extreme example) to replace traditional pledging. This is not done because your national is on some sort of a power trip. I think that they think that this sort of thing is crucial for the preservation of your fraternity.

Most everyone has some sort of national programming now. Sigma Nu has LEAD (which is a bit more open-ended as far as I can tell), ATO has something Pike has something... I'm pretty sure everyone does. The reason for that programming is all the same -- replace pledging with more benign, but hopefully still meaningful activities. The goal? To limit the liability and exposure of the national fraternity and the individual chapter to negligence suits, hazing charges, etc.

I'm not sure whether it's worth it. I guess time will tell.
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