Is hazing the best way?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I don't see a problem with asking, in person or on GC, about activities that other chapters of any GLO have found useful or meaningful, and then evaluating those ideas in light of the rules, policies and procedures of one's own GLO and the personality of one's own chapter.

Better yet, start with chapters of your own GLO that are likely to already be in line with national initiatives, policies, and procedures.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Better yet, start with chapters of your own GLO that are likely to already be in line with national initiatives, policies, and procedures.

On this I agree with you. Where I cannot agree is in saying that, just because the best route is to ask within one's own GLO, asking the question on GC is "completely pointless."

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

On this I agree with you. Where I cannot agree is in saying that, just because the best route is to ask within one's own GLO, asking the question on GC is "completely pointless."

I agree. And I think, unfortunately, it's probably easier to get a response on GC even from your own brothers/sisters then try and get a response from people in other chapters through email or facebook. Having a private forum/message board/etc would help if it's used.

I see nothing wrong with using all your resources.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Where I cannot agree is in saying that, just because the best route is to ask within one's own GLO, asking the question on GC is "completely pointless."

That's fine. I just hope he isn't in an NPHC fraternity.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And I think, unfortunately, it's probably easier to get a response on GC even from your own brothers/sisters then try and get a response from people in other chapters through email or facebook.

I completely disagree and a Soror betnot ever come to GC asking such questions and using that as an excuse.

But why are email/facebook/fraternity message board/private forum the only options other than GC? Before the prevalence of the Internet we visited other campuses and they came to our campus. People talked to each other and exchanged phone numbers. I could see if there are no chapters in a driving distance. If there are chapters in a driving distance, why is the Internet seen as the only tool of communication?

Finding the websites for chapters in your area and contacting (emailing) the chapters makes much more sense than coming to GC as a first resort. Then again, that's just how I was "raised."

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That's fine. I just hope he isn't in an NPHC fraternity.




I completely disagree and a Soror betnot ever come to GC asking such questions and using that as an excuse.

But why are email/facebook/fraternity message board/private forum the only options other than GC? Before the prevalence of the Internet we visited other campuses and they came to our campus. People talked to each other and exchanged phone numbers. I could see if there are no chapters in a driving distance. If there are chapters in a driving distance, why is the Internet seen as the only tool of communication?

Finding the websites for chapters in your area and contacting (emailing) the chapters makes much more sense than coming to GC as a first resort. Then again, that's just how I was "raised."

Because most people don't list their phones online, and while your chapter may have been different, I don't know anyone that visited other chapters on a regular basis except the fraternities that visited one other house once a year as part of pledge week. If I need to get in touch with another member I'd look them up in our online directory and work from there. I'm probably not writing a letter.

The officers had training and such, but the average member didn't get around. Driving distance varies in definition, many students don't have cars, no chapters near to your hometown, etc.

Obviously to all involved, your org, and probably fair to say D9 orgs in general look at it differently, but you're trying awfully hard to impose that perspective as a universality. And yes, some of it is probably "how you were raised" but that's not true for everyone.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Because most people don't list their phones online, and while your chapter may have been different, I don't know anyone that visited other chapters on a regular basis except the fraternities that visited one other house once a year as part of pledge week.

It wasn't just my chapter. Regularly or semi-regularly visiting other collegiate chapters and keeping in touch with members from other collegiates was considered the norm. I won't assume this is just an NPHC thing until I'm told that it is just an NPHC thing.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Obviously to all involved, your org, and probably fair to say D9 orgs in general look at it differently.

Okay, then it is just an NPHC thing?

I'm not attempting a universality and I hope you weren't either when you typed "and I think, unfortunately, it's probably easier to get a response on GC even from your own brothers/sisters than try and get a response from people in other chapters through email or facebook." This OP didn't specify what fraternity he is so I am sharing my opinions based on the info provided.