Is hazing the best way?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Yes, do this and assure being socially ostracized for not only your remaining years in college, but pretty much any alumni event you attend in the future.

That depends. There are different ways to go about speaking to an advisor or regional director without telling them that hazing is an issue. I have seen it happen a few times where concerned members reach out by saying that they are looking for membership ideas that highlight the many positives of sisterhood/brotherhood.

Afterall, his taking the basic ideas (these ideas are extremely basic) from this thread and trying to incorporate them could also lead to his being ignored, laughed at, ostracized, etc. Who wants to be around a sister or brother who is telling them that they are doing it all wrong? Who wants to be around a sister or brother who is acting as though he or she has figured it all out?

What the OP is trying to do can fail and so can speaking with a formal or informal organizational representative. Since the OP came to GC seeking advice, I would never advise someone beyond telling them to speak to their GLO's representative (since speaking to the chapter has obviously not worked yet).

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That depends. There are different ways to go about speaking to an advisor or regional director without telling them that hazing is an issue. I have seen it happen a few times where concerned members reach out by saying that they are looking for membership ideas that highlight the many positives of sisterhood/brotherhood.

Agreed. It's all in the approach. Coming across as 'holier than thou' addressing hazing issues in the chapter will undoubtedly get you laughed out of the chapter room. Coming across as concerned might bring more people out of the woodwork and win you some support.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Agreed. It's all in the approach. Coming across as 'holier than thou' addressing hazing issues in the chapter will undoubtedly get you laughed out of the chapter room. Coming across as concerned might bring more people out of the woodwork and win you some support.

To be honest with you, the OP can easily come across as holier than thou and probably even quick to intolerance and anger when chapter members defend the existing new member program. Even saying that you (in general) are trying to change a new member program automatically gets a negative response from many people. Then saying it isn't "so bad as it could be" just seems like you're (in general) contradicting yourself as though you aren't too sure of what the issues are.