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Old 10-11-2010, 09:29 PM
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Poor people don't pay income tax *been there* there is not an apartment tax, but there are property taxes that the landlords have to pay. If we remove all food tax and tobacco taxes, now what? That's maybe 5-10% of food dollars returned, that's not making a huge difference in the long run unfortunately.
That money thats not in the poor person's wallet. For them to use. It's robbery.

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But we don't live in a perfect world run by a perfect government, so what do we do with the imperfect one we have?
Remove as much of it as possible, perhaps?

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A relatively few make it, but that income gap is widening, not closing.
Why do you think that is...in an America full of more regulation, more welfare, more entitlements than ever before?

Any ideas? Christ. The government is the problem, not the solution.

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I just don't see how paying so little is anything but exploitation and why we should allow it.
This is exactly why I abhor everything with your philosophy.

Who are you to say how one may spend their time? If a person chooses to work for 3 dollars, allow them to. Who are you to prohibit them?

This is on par with GLBT/minority rights. I see no difference between the two. Basic human rights.

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Why would an employer hire more people rather than simply cut costs across the board?
Hire more people? Cut costs across the board? I'm not sure exactly in what context/reference you're speaking of.

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Why would that racist employer actually hire a black person when there are plenty of white people unemployed in this economy?
Because a black person would work for less due to being traditionally disadvantaged, thus giving them a cost advantage.

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Why do you assume that employers would NOT exploit and abuse workers when that is why the minimum wage was created in the first place? Or is it acceptable for workers to be exploited?
Impossible to exploit workers unless they consent to being exploited.

If they consent to being exploited, who are you to say they can't?
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