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08-09-2010, 06:26 PM
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I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.
I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.
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That's what I was taught as well. I've never been under the impression that being initiated into a sorority was something to take lightly, especially as most of my family is greek and I knew very well that once you've promised to be loyal to that organization, it's either them or none at all. I personally suspect the question is asked in the hopes that there is some loophole, or as a way to help the poster rationalize a decision they've already made. It's possible they weren't informed, I guess, but I doubt that's the case.
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08-09-2010, 06:41 PM
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That's what I was taught as well. I've never been under the impression that being initiated into a sorority was something to take lightly, especially as most of my family is greek and I knew very well that once you've promised to be loyal to that organization, it's either them or none at all. I personally suspect the question is asked in the hopes that there is some loophole, or as a way to help the poster rationalize a decision they've already made. It's possible they weren't informed, I guess, but I doubt that's the case.
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I can see her seeking validation, but the "seeking a loophole" part is what irks me.
"No exceptions" means "no exceptions" (as far as membership is concerned). If I REALLY wanted to find something out, I'd 1) consult my org's/council's constitution, bylaws, or SOPs* or 2) ask a real, live member.
*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?
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08-09-2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow
I can see her seeking validation, but the "seeking a loophole" part is what irks me.
"No exceptions" means "no exceptions" (as far as membership is concerned). If I REALLY wanted to find something out, I'd 1) consult my org's/council's constitution, bylaws, or SOPs* or 2) ask a real, live member.
*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?
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You'd think that would be those would be the first logical sources.
I don't even know to be honest, except that when I was on the Panhellenic council I had one. Even if the chapter members didn't all they had to do was ask one of us or our Greek Advisor.
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08-09-2010, 08:53 PM
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*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?
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My organization makes the entire/most current NPC Manual available to all members in the passworded section of our website. I'm sure other organizations out there have a similar means of getting the information to their members.
In addition, I would think all groups have their national constitution & bylaws online somewhere for all initiated members to have access to. I would also think that all new members once initiated would get a hard copy of their org's national constitution & bylaws, plus a copy of the chapter's bylaws as well.
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08-09-2010, 09:04 PM
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My organization makes the entire/most current NPC Manual available to all members in the passworded section of our website. I'm sure other organizations out there have a similar means of getting the information to their members.
In addition, I would think all groups have their national constitution & bylaws online somewhere for all initiated members to have access to. I would also think that all new members once initiated would get a hard copy of their org's national constitution & bylaws, plus a copy of the chapter's bylaws as well.
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Unfortunately, that's not always the case. However, even if members are not provided with these documents, someone in the chapter has them. It would surely be as easy as asking the chapter president for a copy, or an appointment time to read over the documents. It just takes a little asking, and a tiny bit of effort.
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