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[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

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Is this something that isn't taught to new members? Or something that actives would know? It always surprises me that SO MANY people 1) don't know the rules of their organizations/councils and 2) seemingly have no one in the "real world" to ask.

/swerve

On top of what everyone else said, I think it's some people's first time associated with any kind of national organization. And they don't quite "get" that ABC at once school is part of the same org as ABC at another, and yes they follow the same national rules and all of them follow the same national conference rules and so on.

They just don't get that it's not the same as joining any other campus organization or association.

[Barbie's_Rush]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And they don't quite "get" that ABC at once school is part of the same org as ABC at another, and yes they follow the same national rules and all of them follow the same national conference rules and so on.

Until of course they want to affiliate with a top tier chapter at a super competitive school. Then they're all about sisterhood being for life.......

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush

Until of course they want to affiliate with a top tier chapter at a super competitive school. Then they're all about sisterhood being for life.......

Ha, no those people are well aware of the national org thing.

I believe in not mixing the categories of crazy pnm

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

On top of what everyone else said, I think it's some people's first time associated with any kind of national organization. And they don't quite "get" that ABC at once school is part of the same org as ABC at another, and yes they follow the same national rules and all of them follow the same national conference rules and so on.

They just don't get that it's not the same as joining any other campus organization or association.

I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.

I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.

I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.

That's what I was taught as well. I've never been under the impression that being initiated into a sorority was something to take lightly, especially as most of my family is greek and I knew very well that once you've promised to be loyal to that organization, it's either them or none at all. I personally suspect the question is asked in the hopes that there is some loophole, or as a way to help the poster rationalize a decision they've already made. It's possible they weren't informed, I guess, but I doubt that's the case.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

That's what I was taught as well. I've never been under the impression that being initiated into a sorority was something to take lightly, especially as most of my family is greek and I knew very well that once you've promised to be loyal to that organization, it's either them or none at all. I personally suspect the question is asked in the hopes that there is some loophole, or as a way to help the poster rationalize a decision they've already made. It's possible they weren't informed, I guess, but I doubt that's the case.

I can see her seeking validation, but the "seeking a loophole" part is what irks me.

"No exceptions" means "no exceptions" (as far as membership is concerned). If I REALLY wanted to find something out, I'd 1) consult my org's/council's constitution, bylaws, or SOPs* or 2) ask a real, live member.

*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I can see her seeking validation, but the "seeking a loophole" part is what irks me.

"No exceptions" means "no exceptions" (as far as membership is concerned). If I REALLY wanted to find something out, I'd 1) consult my org's/council's constitution, bylaws, or SOPs* or 2) ask a real, live member.

*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?

You'd think that would be those would be the first logical sources.

I don't even know to be honest, except that when I was on the Panhellenic council I had one. Even if the chapter members didn't all they had to do was ask one of us or our Greek Advisor.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

*side-sidebar: Who gets access to the Green Book? Is this something given to each NM? Each chapter? Each local Panhellenic?

My organization makes the entire/most current NPC Manual available to all members in the passworded section of our website. I'm sure other organizations out there have a similar means of getting the information to their members.

In addition, I would think all groups have their national constitution & bylaws online somewhere for all initiated members to have access to. I would also think that all new members once initiated would get a hard copy of their org's national constitution & bylaws, plus a copy of the chapter's bylaws as well.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

My organization makes the entire/most current NPC Manual available to all members in the passworded section of our website. I'm sure other organizations out there have a similar means of getting the information to their members.

In addition, I would think all groups have their national constitution & bylaws online somewhere for all initiated members to have access to. I would also think that all new members once initiated would get a hard copy of their org's national constitution & bylaws, plus a copy of the chapter's bylaws as well.

Unfortunately, that's not always the case. However, even if members are not provided with these documents, someone in the chapter has them. It would surely be as easy as asking the chapter president for a copy, or an appointment time to read over the documents. It just takes a little asking, and a tiny bit of effort.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I just saw this, since the OP bumped this thread.

I guess it's just another "us vs. them" thing. We were taught that membership is national and that your loyalty lies with the organization, not necessarily the chapter. I'm just amazed at how many times this question comes up.

We're taught that too, but I just think some people are naive. And since you join the NPC early and THEN learn these things vs learning a lot to even be considered to join other orgs, that's the us vs. them part, I think.